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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:48:51 PM
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JimboFletch
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That's nonsense. It just might be that they didn't want to hear any kind words for Obama -
If not desiring anything nice to hear about the opponent, isn't that bigotry?
FreddieD
And that would make YOU what?
And that would make that Obama crowd I heard WHAT?
The Republicans and McCain don't have the market cornered on bigotry by a long shot.
McCain, at least, hasn't addressed a woman reporter as "little lady" like Mr. O.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:54:01 PM
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Jhud
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If those people who jeered when McCain corrected the woman were indeed jeering what the woman said, they would have jeered WHEN she spoke and not when McCain corrected her - after shaking his head. His first words were "no, ma'am." He then proceeds to speak well of Obama.
Had they really opposed the ignorance the woman displayed, those who jeered could have perhaps lightly applauded - not as an affirmation of support for Obama (as they were McCain supporters) but in agreement with the good words made by the GOP candidate.
Oh please, you are speaking about such an event like it is some orderly affair where everyone does what you expect them to do on que.
Tell you what, instead of pretending you know, why not be a little bit more honest and admit you really don't know the minds of those reacting to an unexpected and rapid turn of events?
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:56:38 PM
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If those people who jeered when McCain corrected the woman were indeed jeering what the woman said, they would have jeered WHEN she spoke and not when McCain corrected her - after shaking his head. His first words were "no, ma'am." He then proceeds to speak well of Obama.
Exactly, but Jhud did say "perhaps" probably hoping to catch some one asleep.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:58:00 PM
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Jhud
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And that would make YOU what?
And that would make that Obama crowd I heard WHAT?
The Republicans and McCain don't have the market cornered on bigotry by a long shot.
McCain, at least, hasn't addressed a woman reporter as "little lady" like Mr. O.
Yes, Obama sits in a church for twenty years and hears the congregants 'amening' their racist pastor, and it is no reflection on his supporters in the minds of the left. But one confused little old lady gets corrected at a rally, and McCain supporters are bigots.
More 'logic' from the left.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:59:29 PM
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RichLP
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And the fact that some in the audience booed when John McCain rebuked the woman's comments and spoke nicely of Barack Obama shows that they may well share Quinnell's views.
That's nonsense. It just might be that they didn't want to hear any kind words for Obama - I heard the SAME booing at an Obama rally in the past few days when Obama said something honest & kind about McCain.
I suppose I shouldn't be expect a Ron Paul diehard would be objective about the man that trounced him legitimately.
Ron Paul corrected John McCain on live national TV last year when McCain equated Ron Paul supporters with the 1930s appeasers who made Hitler's rise to power in Germany a reality.
Besides, I said "they may well share," not "do share."
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:02:50 PM
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If those people who jeered when McCain corrected the woman were indeed jeering what the woman said, they would have jeered WHEN she spoke and not when McCain corrected her - after shaking his head. His first words were "no, ma'am." He then proceeds to speak well of Obama.
Had they really opposed the ignorance the woman displayed, those who jeered could have perhaps lightly applauded - not as an affirmation of support for Obama (as they were McCain supporters) but in agreement with the good words made by the GOP candidate.
Oh please, you are speaking about such an event like it is some orderly affair where everyone does what you expect them to do on que.
Tell you what, instead of pretending you know, why not be a little bit more honest and admit you really don't know the minds of those reacting to an unexpected and rapid turn of events?
They didn't have issues with what she said.
They booed when McCain spoken nicely of Obama.
They booked when MCCAIN spoke.
So if Ms. Quinnell had spoken well of Obama I guess they would not have booed?
As for "orderly," people did take turns to the microphone; the senator waited in polite silence as she spoke and only interrupted her after he heard her grossly inappropriate remarks.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:03:02 PM
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And that would make YOU what?
Inquisitive.
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And that would make that Obama crowd I heard WHAT?
I don't know what you heard at the rallies. Did you have a video?
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:04:27 PM
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In the end, folks, nothing any of us write here changes the fact that a McCain supporter was corrected by McCain on her bigotry, and that she later continued to express her bigoted and ignorant views. And it is saddening that there are probably a lot of people who think like her - conflating Muslim with Arab.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:05:37 PM
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JimboFletch
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Ron Paul corrected John McCain on live national TV last year when McCain equated Ron Paul supporters with the 1930s appeasers who made Hitler's rise to power in Germany a reality.
I missed that. Who did Paul say his supporters were like in supporting his disloyal refusal to go with the majority of the party he chose to run his first attempt as their candidate?
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:06:36 PM
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Jhud
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They didn't have issues with what she said.
They booed when McCain spoken nicely of Obama.
They booked when MCCAIN spoke.
So if Ms. Quinnell had spoken well of Obama I guess they would not have booed?
As for "orderly," people did take turns to the microphone; the senator waited in polite silence as she spoke and only interrupted her after he heard her grossly inappropriate remarks.
Again, you are only demonstrating here you have never been to a political rally; it's not like a talk show where people sit around in an orderly fashion and signs are flashing telling someone when to clap and boo. When someone speaks in an event like that (like the one I was at in the same town, a few weeks back) there is a ripple effect - people don't react immediately, because words filter through the crowd.
Saying you 'know' what they were booing at is comepletely dishonest on your part.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:09:04 PM
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Jhud
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In the end, folks, nothing any of us write here changes the fact that a McCain supporter was corrected by McCain on her bigotry, and that she later continued to express her bigoted and ignorant views. And it is saddening that there are probably a lot of people who think like her - conflating Muslim with Arab.
Well yes, and again there is no doubting a number of Obama supporters (including Obama himself, until he backed off) were fully supportive of the racist Rev. Wright; but that isn't neccesarily a reflection of the individual candidate, and in the case of McCain, it shows his good character that he corrected him, unlike Obama with Wright.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:09:46 PM
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JimboFletch
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I don't know what you heard at the rallies. Did you have a video?
I told you what I heard - no I didn't record it, convert it, and put it on youtube - I don't even watch youtube videos. You think I'm a liar? A bigoted liar? A bigoted liar just because I'm unwilling to believe Obama and his suporters are saints every one?
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:13:53 PM
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FreddieD
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If those people who jeered when McCain corrected the woman were indeed jeering what the woman said, they would have jeered WHEN she spoke and not when McCain corrected her - after shaking his head. His first words were "no, ma'am." He then proceeds to speak well of Obama.
Had they really opposed the ignorance the woman displayed, those who jeered could have perhaps lightly applauded - not as an affirmation of support for Obama (as they were McCain supporters) but in agreement with the good words made by the GOP candidate.
Oh please, you are speaking about such an event like it is some orderly affair where everyone does what you expect them to do on que.
Tell you what, instead of pretending you know, why not be a little bit more honest and admit you really don't know the minds of those reacting to an unexpected and rapid turn of events?
RichLP has caught you in a deceptive ploy and now you are trying to back your way out of it by grabbing at straws.
FreddieD
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:15:55 PM
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Jhud
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RichLP has caught you in a deceptive ploy and now you are trying to back your way out of it by grabbing at straws.
What are you, his sidekick? I don't know that Festus needs a replacement.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:32:13 PM
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FreddieD
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RichLP has caught you in a deceptive ploy and now you are trying to back your way out of it by grabbing at straws.
What are you, his sidekick? I don't know that Festus needs a replacement.
"Festus"? You talking about Festus Haggen?
I'll let you back out of an argument, you don't have to get insulting.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:37:45 PM
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Jhud
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"Festus"? You talking about Festus Haggen?
I'll let you back out of an argument, you don't have to get insulting.
Personally I always like Festus.
I have no idea what you are talking about otherwise; I simply pointed out Rich was making it up.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:40:51 PM
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FreddieD
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I don't know what you heard at the rallies. Did you have a video?
I told you what I heard - no I didn't record it, convert it, and put it on youtube - I don't even watch youtube videos. You think I'm a liar? A bigoted liar? A bigoted liar just because I'm unwilling to believe Obama and his suporters are saints every one?
I just want to view the evidence myself.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:44:49 PM
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FreddieD
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"Festus"? You talking about Festus Haggen?
I'll let you back out of an argument, you don't have to get insulting.
Personally I always like Festus.
I have no idea what you are talking about otherwise; I simply pointed out Rich was making it up.
Prove that he is making it up. He had made a reasonable assessment so far.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:45:58 PM
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He had to handle that bigot correctly. The republican party is known as not being friendly to minorities.. if he didn't handle it correctly he could lose that election on that one statement.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:50:12 PM
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If we need an example of a bigot, Michelle Obama is the best I can think of. And her's is an intellectually refined form of racism.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:57:31 PM
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He had to handle that bigot correctly. The republican party is known as not being friendly to minorities.. if he didn't handle it correctly he could lose that election on that one statement.
Well said Miss Giggles. That is one of the basic reasons why I am not too fond of the republican party. It certianly lost something since Lincoln.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 5:58:50 PM
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If we need an example of a bigot, Michelle Obama is the best I can think of. And her's is an intellectually refined form of racism.
Please, explain.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 6:20:16 PM
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Another fun time at the rallies.
Palin to Scranton: "Drill, baby, drill, and mine, baby, mine"
There were no incendiary outbursts from the crowd about Mr. Obama during Mrs. Palin's speech, as there have been during other recent McCain-Palin rallies.
However, someone did shout out, "Kill him!" during Republican congressional candidate Chris Hackett's remarks before Mrs. Palin took the stage.
The outburst came during a round of booing from the crowd after Mr. Hackett said Mr. Obama should come to Pennsylvania and learn what the state's values are.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 6:29:13 PM
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Jhud
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Another fun time at the rallies.
Palin to Scranton: "Drill, baby, drill, and mine, baby, mine"
There were no incendiary outbursts from the crowd about Mr. Obama during Mrs. Palin's speech, as there have been during other recent McCain-Palin rallies.
However, someone did shout out, "Kill him!" during Republican congressional candidate Chris Hackett's remarks before Mrs. Palin took the stage.
The outburst came during a round of booing from the crowd after Mr. Hackett said Mr. Obama should come to Pennsylvania and learn what the state's values are.
And who yelled 'kill him' exactly?
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