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John McCain defends Obama. - 10/13/2008 8:09:00 PM
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FreddieD
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John McCain had to step in and take the mic away from one of his supporters after she accused Obama of being an "Arab".
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But what really surprised me was that just after removing the mic from her he said that Barack would be a good president if elected.
I knew that all along.
FreddieD
< Message edited by FreddieD -- 10/13/2008 8:19:17 PM >
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/13/2008 8:34:02 PM
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relady
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He also told another guy who said he was scared of Obama that he didn't need to be scared of an Obama presidency.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 1:46:11 PM
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FreddieD
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He also told another guy who said he was scared of Obama that he didn't need to be scared of an Obama presidency.
Exactly, It is something social conservatives don't want to hear.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 1:59:36 PM
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But what really surprised me was that just after removing the mic from her he said that Barack would be a good president if elected.
I knew that all along.
Funny how you take the gracious words of McCain and mock them instead of emulate them.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 2:13:02 PM
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FreddieD
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Funny how you take the gracious words of McCain and mock them instead of emulate them.
I am not mocking them. Its just a pity that he has to appeal to the worst for votes.
FreddieD
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 2:49:20 PM
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Jhud
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I am not mocking them. Its just a pity that he has to appeal to the worst for votes.
So let me get this straight; he contradicts what you consider the 'worst', compliments his opponent (respecting him in a way his opponent has never reciprocated) and he is 'appealing to the worst'?
Seriously, I am concerned about the education of this nation when I read things like this.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 3:13:24 PM
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FreddieD
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So let me get this straight; he contradicts what you consider the 'worst', compliments his opponent (respecting him in a way his opponent has never reciprocated) and he is 'appealing to the worst'?
Seriously, I am concerned about the education of this nation when I read things like this.
Is English your first language? I never said anything about his opponents. Where did you read that?
I said, and read it carefully, "I am not mocking McCain or his comments just that it is a pity that he must appeal to the worst of the worst for votes."
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 3:16:33 PM
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Jhud
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Is English your first language? I never said anything about his opponents. Where did you read that?
I said, and read it carefully, "I am not mocking McCain or his comments just that it is a pity that he must appeal to the worst of the worst for votes."
Still concerned; how is defending Obama 'appealing to the worst'? Isn't that in fact the best an opponent can do? It is, and you shouldn't be attacking him for it, and instead giving him his props.
But I don't think you are capable of that.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 3:26:38 PM
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FreddieD
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Still concerned; how is defending Obama 'appealing to the worst'?
Because that is what he was doing until it got so bad that he had to rebuke them.
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Isn't that in fact the best an opponent can do? It is, and you shouldn't be attacking him for it, and instead giving him his props.
I'm on the side of reason.
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But I don't think you are capable of that.
Than you must think Obama is an "Arab" also.
FreddieD
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 3:51:08 PM
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I said, and read it carefully, "I am not mocking McCain or his comments just that it is a pity that he must appeal to the worst of the worst for votes."
Perhaps I misunderstand you. Are you saying McCain mostly attracts whackos and stupid people?
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 3:57:12 PM
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Because that is what he was doing until it got so bad that he had to rebuke them.
I always thought the defintion of the 'worst' was something that was worse than something else; now you are saying he was actually rebuking those that worse than others? Make up your mind already.
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I'm on the side of reason.
But apparently aren't able to articulate a reasonable position.
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Than you must think Obama is an "Arab" also.
I don't, though I think you just demonstrated how the game is played by leftists.
Incidentally, why do you think being an Arab is a bad thing?
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 3:59:33 PM
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Obama the victim...yet again...ho-hum.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:13:16 PM
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FreddieD
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Perhaps I misunderstand you. Are you saying McCain mostly attracts whackos and stupid people?
Would you say that the woman who called Obama an "Arab" and the man who brought a stuff doll in a shape of a mockey waring an Obama cap to the rally are "whackos"?
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:18:40 PM
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That woman's comments show ignorance. She confused "Arab" with "Muslim."
And when John McCain shakes his head, takes the microphone away from her, and speaks nicely of Barack Obama, people in the audience boo him? Perhaps those jeering shared that woman's ignorance and bigotry.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:19:59 PM
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And when John McCain shakes his head, takes the microphone away from her, and speaks nicely of Barack Obama, people in the audience boo him? Perhaps those jeering shared that woman's ignorance and bigotry.
Or perhaps they were booing it?
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:24:45 PM
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And when John McCain shakes his head, takes the microphone away from her, and speaks nicely of Barack Obama, people in the audience boo him? Perhaps those jeering shared that woman's ignorance and bigotry.
Or perhaps they were booing it?
If those people who jeered when McCain corrected the woman were indeed jeering what the woman said, they would have jeered WHEN she spoke and not when McCain corrected her - after shaking his head. His first words were "no, ma'am." He then proceeds to speak well of Obama.
Had they really opposed the ignorance the woman displayed, those who jeered could have perhaps lightly applauded - not as an affirmation of support for Obama (as they were McCain supporters) but in agreement with the good words made by the GOP candidate.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:26:07 PM
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FreddieD
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That woman's comments show ignorance. She confused "Arab" with "Muslim."
And when John McCain shakes his head, takes the microphone away from her, and speaks nicely of Barack Obama, people in the audience boo him? Perhaps those jeering shared that woman's ignorance and bigotry.
Oh, than there are bigots at McCain's rallies?
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:27:01 PM
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Perhaps I misunderstand you. Are you saying McCain mostly attracts whackos and stupid people?
Would you say that the woman who called Obama an "Arab" and the man who brought a stuff doll in a shape of a mockey waring an Obama cap to the rally are "whackos"?
FreddieD
I sure would and nobody is arguing otherwise. But would you like for us to discuss the whackos and stupid people attracted by Obama - or just the Democratic party? You might not want to go there...
There have been and still are nutcases and evil people that have done horrendous things while professing to be Christian and followers of Christ. Do we judge Christ by those people or by His life and His claims?
And no, I'm not comparing anyone anywhere to the real Messiah.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:33:10 PM
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That woman's comments show ignorance. She confused "Arab" with "Muslim."
And when John McCain shakes his head, takes the microphone away from her, and speaks nicely of Barack Obama, people in the audience boo him? Perhaps those jeering shared that woman's ignorance and bigotry.
Oh, than there are bigots at McCain's rallies?
FreddieD
The woman is bigoted - she admitted that she does not trust Barack Obama because he is an Arab (her words, not mine).
The woman, whose name is Sarah Quinnell, later said on camera that she doesn't trust Obama because he is an "... Arab. He’s a Muslim. I’m afraid if he ever got to be president what would happen to this country.”
If a person said he/she did not trust you because you were from California/Minnesota/New Mexico - or because you were Jewish, Italian, German, or Japanese (to be an Arab is not to be a member of a religion; there are Arabs who are Jewish and Arabs who are - EGAD! - Christians), that is bigotry.
If a person said he/she did not trust you because you were a Christian, that is bigotry.
And the fact that some in the audience booed when John McCain rebuked the woman's comments and spoke nicely of Barack Obama shows that they may well share Quinnell's views.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:35:47 PM
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FreddieD
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I sure would and nobody is arguing otherwise. But would you like for us to discuss the whackos and stupid people attracted by Obama - or just the Democratic party? You might not want to go there...
I certianly would like to go there.
And would you agree with McCain that an Obama Presidency would be nothing to fear?
FreddieD
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:38:35 PM
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And the fact that some in the audience booed when John McCain rebuked the woman's comments and spoke nicely of Barack Obama shows that they may well share Quinnell's views.[/size][/font]
That's nonsense. It just might be that they didn't want to hear any kind words for Obama - I heard the SAME booing at an Obama rally in the past few days when Obama said something honest & kind about McCain.
I suppose I shouldn't be expect a Ron Paul diehard would be objective about the man that trounced him legitimately.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:42:57 PM
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And would you agree with McCain that an Obama Presidency would be nothing to fear?
Not answering. You said you wanted to discuss whackos and stupid people attracted by Obama - or just the Democratic party.
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I certianly would like to go there.
Just for starters, the Democrats called their own people stupid publically in Florida - claiming only THEIR members were too stupid to figure out the ballot and, as a result, any bad ones should automatically go to them.
That would have ended my association with them had not Jimmy Carter already done that when his failed economic policies caused the worst financial conditions of my life.
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:45:17 PM
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FreddieD
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That's nonsense. It just might be that they didn't want to hear any kind words for Obama -
If not desiring anything nice to hear about the opponent, isn't that bigotry?
FreddieD
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RE: John McCain defends Obama. - 10/14/2008 4:47:20 PM
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And when John McCain shakes his head, takes the microphone away from her, and speaks nicely of Barack Obama, people in the audience boo him? Perhaps those jeering shared that woman's ignorance and bigotry.
Or perhaps they were booing it?
If those people who jeered when McCain corrected the woman were indeed jeering what the woman said, they would have jeered WHEN she spoke and not when McCain corrected her - after shaking his head. His first words were "no, ma'am." He then proceeds to speak well of Obama.
Had they really opposed the ignorance the woman displayed, those who jeered could have perhaps lightly applauded - not as an affirmation of support for Obama (as they were McCain supporters) but in agreement with the good words made by the GOP candidate.
Exactly, I was going to mention that, but you know some people here have selective hearing... 
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