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Question on Abortion - 10/8/2008 2:24:11 PM
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AboundinginHisGrace
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I am not asking this question because we want to have one (we aren't even pregnant), I feel it is sinful and I highly oppose it, I am Pro-Life. Here is my question, how many weeks into the pregnancy can a woman have an abortion. I have a friend that is pro-choice and I wanted to have the correct facts before moving any farther along in the discussion with them. I looked online and I couldn't find it. also if you could provide a link or law or something to back it up it would be great.
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/8/2008 3:23:17 PM
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MY personal belief is that life begins at conseption, and anything done to expell that fertilized egg or fetus is abortion. That would include IUD devicdes and certain other birth control measures as well as a doctor induced "Abortion".
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/8/2008 3:45:46 PM
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In 2003 Bush signed a law banning abortions in the 2nd trimester (15 weeks)
Here is how much the baby has developed in 15 weeks
**Edited to note that I was responding in a "legal" sense.
< Message edited by ladyichigo -- 10/8/2008 3:55:11 PM >
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/8/2008 3:48:45 PM
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"How many weeks into the pregnancy can a woman have an abortion."
If you're asking a legal question then the law differs in each country. What is law here in the UK may differ from the USA.
If you're asking a moral/Christian question - read what RCJames said.
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/8/2008 3:49:41 PM
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It varies from state to state, I believe. Exceptions might be made due to the health of the mother.
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/8/2008 3:55:41 PM
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ORIGINAL: AboundinginHisGrace
I am not asking this question because we want to have one (we aren't even pregnant), I feel it is sinful and I highly oppose it, I am Pro-Life. Here is my question, how many weeks into the pregnancy can a woman have an abortion. I have a friend that is pro-choice and I wanted to have the correct facts before moving any farther along in the discussion with them. I looked online and I couldn't find it. also if you could provide a link or law or something to back it up it would be great.
I, too, agree with RC, but to answer your question:
Women can leglly have an abortion anytime prior to the "fetus" being "viable" acording to US law. After working in a hospital and observing many women go into the abortion clinic with bellies big enough to rest a plate on (or obviously well into their third trimester), and hearing about cases where babies were slaughtered after they were delivered breathing, I think doctors do them all the time on viable infants...it just depends on how ethical the doctor is.
Also of vital importance is the fact that many infants are now being delivered (with good prognoses for survival) far earlier than what was once believed to be the viable age in utero, which makes the whole issue of abortion even more disheartening and pathetic. God alone determines when and if a baby is viable.
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/8/2008 4:18:36 PM
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AboundinginHisGrace
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MY personal belief is that life begins at conseption, and anything done to expell that fertilized egg or fetus is abortion. That would include IUD devicdes and certain other birth control measures as well as a doctor induced "Abortion".
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Oh I agree with this as well. That is not what I was talking about. I was just wondering what our countries (USA) laws are. I am totally opposed to any type of abortion, and I have scripture to back up what I believe. But I just wanted to know what USA's policies were on abortion. So I could talk to some friends about it.
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/8/2008 4:28:26 PM
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Here is my question, how many weeks into the pregnancy can a woman have an abortion. As has been said. the rules will no doubt vary depending on the state and country the woman is in.
You'll also probably find differing times given because of the mother's health and whether there are any problems with the baby.
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/8/2008 6:53:23 PM
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I thought that Doe v Bolton was only applicable to Georgia law.
Well, let me look it up...
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Doe v. Bolton, 410 U.S. 179 (1973), was a landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court overturning the abortion law of Georgia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doe_v._Bolton
It was the US Supreme Court overturning a state's law, which means it nullified Georgia's law (which said no abortion except in some instances) and set up a different law for the whole country:
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"... abortion will be available all the way up until birth." (see citation above)
Thanks for mentioning that, Kat, as I didn't know about it. It's always good to learn something new.
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/8/2008 7:05:30 PM
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i think almost all states allow partial-birth abortions, if the mother's health is at risk.
the scary and slippery slope is, the mother's health is no longer just considered physical, but mental. if the mother says that she cannot mentally or emotionally handle the baby, she could potentially get away with a partial-birth abortion.
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/9/2008 9:27:17 PM
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In plants, science regards division of cells as life. Why would we look at humans differently, when cells begin to divide at conception?
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/9/2008 10:46:56 PM
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I am not asking this question because we want to have one (we aren't even pregnant), I feel it is sinful and I highly oppose it, I am Pro-Life. Here is my question, how many weeks into the pregnancy can a woman have an abortion. I have a friend that is pro-choice and I wanted to have the correct facts before moving any farther along in the discussion with them. I looked online and I couldn't find it. also if you could provide a link or law or something to back it up it would be great.
Abounding,
As a former pro choice person (many years ago), what turned me into a pro life person was reading a book on the day in the life of an abortion clinic. It was called Moments on Maple Avenue. When the book narrative started in on why it is 'wrong' to expect a woman to vaginally birth a baby before the killing takes place (as in that is too hard, too painful and too humiliating) and instead we should expect doctors to remove the baby piece by piece, I said NO! Although I knew abortion to be wrong and I would have never chosen it myself, I mistakenly thought others should be allowed this choice. But when I read about how we should make others responsible for this killing (the doctor), the Holy Spirit was able to show me how this murder of babies is wrong no matter who is doing it or what method is used. And I then realized that no one should have the choice to take a life. So be gracious to this person. Sometimes we are slow and resistant but if we are His, He will change us. He did me. Bless you as you speak words of truth and life to your friend, Liveloved
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/10/2008 1:33:13 AM
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In plants, science regards division of cells as life. Why would we look at humans differently, when cells begin to divide at conception?
Politics. Follow the money: 4004 abortions a day all year long since 1973 at $1000+ each.
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/10/2008 1:33:43 PM
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In 2003 Bush signed a law banning abortions in the 2nd trimester (15 weeks)
Here is how much the baby has developed in 15 weeks
**Edited to note that I was responding in a "legal" sense.
I remember hearing about that. So, if he signed a law that it can't happen in the 2nd trimester, then why is it still happening (according to other posters). Why is GA exempt from this law. Or, maybe I am misreading other posts. I thought that was a federal law.
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/11/2008 1:18:16 AM
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Don't forget that most rape exceptions require no proof... Making abortion on demand the law of the land in reality...
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/11/2008 3:55:25 AM
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Sovereign, your "House" avatar never creeped me out before, but combined with this thread it did.
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/12/2008 8:59:12 PM
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Don't forget that most rape exceptions require no proof... Making abortion on demand the law of the land in reality...
I suppose you could require that the woman at least have filed rape charges. That way if she's lying, she's putting herself in legal jeopardy.
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/13/2008 1:53:13 AM
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That's forcing a woman into saying she was raped though ~ and making her feel as though she's being raped again.
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/13/2008 1:23:23 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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That's forcing a woman into saying she was raped though ~ and making her feel as though she's being raped again.
If one is going to use rape as cause to abort they should be required to file charges...
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RE: Question on Abortion - 10/13/2008 1:26:52 PM
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That's forcing a woman into saying she was raped though ~ and making her feel as though she's being raped again.
I somewhat agree.... But what's an alternative?
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