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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 10:15:23 AM   
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I'm really considering using this as my siggy.
May I?


Be my guest.


I noticed, according to his profile, the one I wrote that to is now SINGLE.
He's a widower.

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 10:20:07 AM   
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I noticed, according to his profile, the one I wrote that to is now SINGLE.
He's a widower.

Thank you! I was tempted to make a comment but decided against it because I thought it might be unrelated. Now I'm glad I let it go.
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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 10:27:28 AM   
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I noticed, according to his profile, the one I wrote that to is now SINGLE.
He's a widower.

Thank you! I was tempted to make a comment but decided against it because I thought it might be unrelated. Now I'm glad I let it go.
I'm glad you did as well. And I'm proud of you. Seriously.



I've been following that thread in the Mens folder practically since its inception; in fact, I'm subbed to it. Some of the posts have been very uplifting and some of them have . . . well . . . not been.

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 10:38:14 AM   
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i don't log in through the crosswalk portal anymore...too much stuff going on on the page. i log in through ibelieve.com

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 10:44:56 AM   
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i don't log in through the crosswalk portal anymore...too much stuff going on on the page. i log in through ibelieve.com

I like Faith Community Network best since it look like Crosswalk used to.
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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 11:20:29 AM   
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every once in a while, i'll come in through CCM or (dare i say it) the SG portal because the colors are soothing.

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:21:05 PM   
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A biblical leader gets up off the coach and takes the lead for both his wife and himself, but the others sit in their "lazyboy" throne and just bark out commands that they believe their wives must obey.


My husband does that, he instructs me on whatever, he even uses that word.

One year I had a car accident and totaled the car. He never said he was glad I was ok, so three days later I asked him about it. He said "in spite of your willful and deliberate disobedience I am glad you're ok". I asked how in the world would having an accident be disobedience? He said since I had an accident I ignored his instruction to be careful. I was so upset I even started a thread about it here in He Says. None of the guys took me seriously and just joked about it. Maybe they never met anyone like him.

I'm not an obedient wife. I try to be submissive but that doesn't mean obedient.

I was going to post in the roles in the home thread but decided against it. I was going to say something about how the verse that talks about submission, in the next verse uses the word obedience for children so if we are to obey then He would have said so but then since I don't know if it is the same word in the original I decided against it.

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:27:30 PM   
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Hello everyone,

I'm back in town, but I doubt I'll be around here much. My home computer's in hospital. And now that I'm back at w***, I'm super busy.

It was an awesome time last week. First, there was the church ladies' retreat at my pastor's family cabin, which besides being a relaxing time, was special in other ways - much sharing and revelation. Really amazing. Then Wednesday I flew with my niece, sister and her fiance to the Keys for sister's wedding Friday. My brother and sil (who live there and we stayed with them) surprised us - they put in a pool!

The wedding was just as beautiful as you could imagine. The weather was perfect, the bride was radiant, and the groom was handsome. And I've never seen my sister so happy. The whole day was simply wonderful!


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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:27:41 PM   
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Interestingly, the Greek word for "obedience" is not found in the bible as it relates to marriage as near as I can tell. Personally, I don't want an obedient wife. Obedience is for children.

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:31:42 PM   
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Interestingly, the Greek word for "obedience" is not found in the bible as it relates to marriage as near as I can tell. Personally, I don't want an obedient wife. Obedience is for children.


Considering I am wrong about half the time it would not be very smart of my wife to be obedient.

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:32:29 PM   
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A biblical leader gets up off the coach and takes the lead for both his wife and himself, but the others sit in their "lazyboy" throne and just bark out commands that they believe their wives must obey.


My husband does that, he instructs me on whatever, he even uses that word.

One year I had a car accident and totaled the car. He never said he was glad I was ok, so three days later I asked him about it. He said "in spite of your willful and deliberate disobedience I am glad you're ok". I asked how in the world would having an accident be disobedience? He said since I had an accident I ignored his instruction to be careful. I was so upset I even started a thread about it here in He Says. None of the guys took me seriously and just joked about it. Maybe they never met anyone like him.
I can say with total assurance that if I ever said anything like that to Loverly, I'd be holding cereal boxes. And I'd deserve it too.
Well for the record, I'M glad you were OK.
***HUGS Kath***

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:35:01 PM   
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Interestingly, the Greek word for "obedience" is not found in the bible as it relates to marriage as near as I can tell. Personally, I don't want an obedient wife. Obedience is for children.


Considering I am wrong about half the time it would not be very smart of my wife to be obedient.


Amen to that. My wife is far more gifted than I am when it comes to the discipline & raising of our boy, for example. I'm very content to follow her lead there. As long as I do that my son will save many thousands of dollars on psychotherapy when he's older.

I figure I'm wrong about 50% of the time, and she's wrong about 50% of the time. If we cooperate, we only have a 25% chance of being wrong, which isn't too bad.

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:36:33 PM   
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A biblical leader gets up off the coach and takes the lead for both his wife and himself, but the others sit in their "lazyboy" throne and just bark out commands that they believe their wives must obey.


My husband does that, he instructs me on whatever, he even uses that word.

One year I had a car accident and totaled the car. He never said he was glad I was ok, so three days later I asked him about it. He said "in spite of your willful and deliberate disobedience I am glad you're ok". I asked how in the world would having an accident be disobedience? He said since I had an accident I ignored his instruction to be careful. I was so upset I even started a thread about it here in He Says. None of the guys took me seriously and just joked about it. Maybe they never met anyone like him.
I can say with total assurance that if I ever said anything like that to Loverly, I'd be holding cereal boxes. And I'd deserve it too.
Well for the record, I'M glad you were OK.
***HUGS Kath***


I think I'd be on the front doorstep holding a suitcase.

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:36:54 PM   
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...I'm not an obedient wife. I try to be submissive but that doesn't mean obedient...

Some Sundays when I think she's being a bit rebellious, I'll ask my BW, "Did you listen to the pastor's sermon? He said 'wives submit to your husband.'"

She usually replies, "He didn't say anything about that."

I smuggly say, "Maybe not, but it was implied."



That's usually when she throws something (that wouldn't leave a bruise or a scar) in my direction.
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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:37:56 PM   
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A biblical leader gets up off the coach and takes the lead for both his wife and himself, but the others sit in their "lazyboy" throne and just bark out commands that they believe their wives must obey.


My husband does that, he instructs me on whatever, he even uses that word.

One year I had a car accident and totaled the car. He never said he was glad I was ok, so three days later I asked him about it. He said "in spite of your willful and deliberate disobedience I am glad you're ok". I asked how in the world would having an accident be disobedience? He said since I had an accident I ignored his instruction to be careful. I was so upset I even started a thread about it here in He Says. None of the guys took me seriously and just joked about it. Maybe they never met anyone like him.
I can say with total assurance that if I ever said anything like that to Loverly, I'd be holding cereal boxes. And I'd deserve it too.
Well for the record, I'M glad you were OK.
***HUGS Kath***


I think I'd be on the front doorstep holding a suitcase.


BT I would probably be on the front doorstep but I would more than likely be holding a cold wash cloth to my newly acquired black eye.

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:38:22 PM   
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Oh yeah, Kath... I wonder if your husband ever thought about the possibility that in the accident you could have been hit and it not been your fault? Being careful does not cover being in the wrong place at the wrong time. That's just bad luck.


Loverly asked if your husband could hold some cereal boxes for her.

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:40:51 PM   
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BT I would probably be on the front doorstep but I would more than likely be holding a cold wash cloth to my newly acquired black eye.


I'm lucky - my wife is smart but her aim is lousy and she's not particularly fast. I can usually escape any physical damage.

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:43:10 PM   
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BT I would probably be on the front doorstep but I would more than likely be holding a cold wash cloth to my newly acquired black eye.


I'm lucky - my wife is smart but her aim is lousy and she's not particularly fast. I can usually escape any physical damage.
I'm not so lucky. My wife has GOOD aim. So I'm careful in the mornings when I'm pouring cereal...

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:47:43 PM   
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Oh yeah, Kath... I wonder if your husband ever thought about the possibility that in the accident you could have been hit and it not been your fault? Being careful does not cover being in the wrong place at the wrong time. That's just bad luck.



I was alone on a gravel road. The guy had just put new gravel down, but one spot was always bad. I was not driving the car I normally drive and lost control. One gal saw the car in the field and said she had just said something to her mom (they were heading up to school) and she had just told her about the bad spot in the road when she saw my car.

I was pretty mad at him and yelled and such. I'd have to say it changed our relationship, but he doesn't see it. He is pretty secure in his righteousness.

We had gone to our pastor for counseling, but he admitted he never forgets anything as it's part of history, and doesn't believe anyone can change. Pastor said as long as he has that attitude he can't help us.

We get by.

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:51:05 PM   
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Noted. Prayed fer.


(((((((Kath)))))))

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:51:36 PM   
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In the few times there's been a car accident, whether BW or kids, the first thing I always asked was how they are. You can replace cars but people, especially those we love, aren't replaceable!
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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:53:10 PM   
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Kath -
Here's some rays of hope for you. My dad was exactly the same way. In fact, I had a fairly poor relationship with him for years. Oddly enough, he decided when he was nearly 60 that his behavior just wasn't working out very well for him anymore. He started making some serious changes.

My folks' marriage is now much better, I actually LIKE my dad now and probably get along with him better than I do with my mom. I've gained a profound respect for him as a result of all the changes he's made. And now, who would have thought that a 75-year old man would still be interested in making some serious changes in his life.

Folks can change, and they often do. Just takes time, effort and a good spouse to help point the way.

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 12:59:40 PM   
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In the few times there's been a car accident, whether BW or kids, the first thing I always asked was how they are. You can replace cars but people, especially those we love, aren't replaceable!



That's what I'd think.

Thank you for the encouragement BT. I hate that the kids don't want to be around him.

I appreciate the prayers James.

Normally I don't say a negative word about him at all. I try to stay positive, plus I don't want to become one of those women here who are always complaining and starting threads about how lousy their husbands are. He isn't, he works hard to provide for us but he even admits he struggles with saying positive things to his loved ones. Besides, I am far from perfect myself. I know I have flaws, and I can't say honestly I work on all of them.

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 1:05:05 PM   
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Kath-
Everyone has to vent a little sometimes. Even though we love our spouses, and even though they are fundamentally good people, there's always something that frosts us once in a while. It's ok.

I'll be praying it works out for you as well as it did for my folks.

BT

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RE: The Lion's Den - 10/14/2008 1:06:41 PM   
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Please feel free to vent here, Kath. If you can't vent among friends...

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