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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 5/28/2007 1:57:47 PM
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"Now the Spirit explicitly says that in the later times some will desert the faith and occupy themselves with deceiving spirits and demonic teachings, influenced by the hypocrisy of liars whose consciences are seared. They will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth." 1 Timothy 4:1-3
your point is?
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Prophet Muhammad did not prohibit marriage, Muhammad did not really prohibit foods. All fish were made halal, so were camels and food that was sacrificed in the word of God is acceptable.
what is the relevance?
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How can prophet Muhammad's teachings be demonic, the demonic teaching is prohibiting marriage and abstinence from foods.
Mohammed does not come from God so how can his teachings be Godly?
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"Jesus answered them, ‘Watch out that no one misleads you. For many will come in my name, saying, "I am the Christ," and they will mislead many ... Then if anyone says to you, "Look, here is the Christ!" or "There he is!" do not believe him. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. Remember, I have told you ahead of time."
Matthew 24:4-5, 23-25
Just as you are attempting to do.
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To start off, Jesus says that many will come IN MY NAME claiming I AM THE CHRIST. The prophet Muhammad never claimed he was the Christ, that title was never given to him in the Quran, the term Christ is only given to Jesus in the Quran. Secondly, Muhammad never came in Jesus’ name; Muhammad came for Allah’s cause, not Jesus’. So therefore as we already see, the prophet Muhammad does not match the description given by Jesus.
The scriptures did not say that all false prophets would claim to be Christ so what is the relevance of this statement?
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Also prophet Mohammad did not go around everyday performing miracles, and doing great wonders, this is what the Antichrist will do.
Once again here is the biblical definition of antichrist:
1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Not once in the only 4 verses containing the word antichrist does it say the antichrist will perform miracles. Twisting what the scriptures say only shows your desparate attempt to justify the FALSE prophet mohammed.
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However, I am not saying prophet Muhammad did not perform miracles. He most certainly did, go read the hadiths to read them for yourself.
Why bother islamic writings are so full of inconsistencies it cannot possibly be true. Why didn't you explain the discrepancies in the koran? Is it because there is no explanation? Please address the post I made earlier demonstrating the inconsistincies in the koran koran inconcistencies
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 5/28/2007 2:31:07 PM
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 5/30/2007 2:25:10 PM
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posting blind...
Nero Caesar was 666. He was the Beast spoken of in the Revelation.
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 5/30/2007 9:02:34 PM
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never read the davinci code, don't typically watch discovery, history channel or other various sorts of documentaries or documentary channels, BUT I have "done a little research." My research lead me to conclude that in the historical context, John, who, as you noted, was exiled on Patmos, was referring to Caesar Nero when he wrote Rev 13:18 and the context which sourrounds it.
it is a disputable matter so I won't press it.
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/2/2007 10:13:11 PM
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There's a high possibility The Beast is America or America is Mystery Babylon.
There is the symbolic interpetation of the Mark of the Beast...but there is also a very literal possibility of the Mark of Beast, also. According to the Book of Revelation any that worship the Beast or the Image of the Beast, or love & worship Mystery Babylon will incur Gods' wrath.
I consider the possibility Mystery Babylon sets up the Worldly Government that is The Beast..as many including current Politicians have called for the New World Order or a One World Government that many think is the final government of man's worldy governments that is The Beast.
I consider the False Prophet is possibily the False Prophets of any of man's Man Made Religions be they Christianity, Judaism, Islam, or any others that are out there that lead people astray with the False Prophets of Christianity & Judaism loving and worshiping after the Beast, the Image of the Beast, (Wordly Power & Wealth) being deceived by Politicians, Bankers, and Corporations while thinking the Beast is doing God's work when the Beast is doing the Devil's work.
For the Merchants of the Earth were great men who...Deceived all the Nations of the Earth with their Sorceries...
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/3/2007 12:40:23 AM
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America is neither the Beast nor Mystery Babylon. It is also my opinion that Islam, also, is not either of the above.
Consider Revelation 18:4.
Firstly, if any American Christian believes that America is Babylon, they should immediately pack up and emigrate. NOW! However, I believe the instruction is not in regard to earthly locality, rather it is in regard to a spiritual loyalty.
Also, if Islam was Mystery Babylon, the instruction would make no sense, since there are non of God's people in that religion. So, why would God utter those words?
In order to avoid taking this off topic, I will shortly start a new thread on my view of the identity of Babylon. Returning to topic, I think it is clear that Islam is marked with the number of the beast, and is a key part of satan's work. For that matter, the same could be said of America.
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/3/2007 5:18:59 AM
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Everyone has their own opinons as to who Mystery Babylon or the Beast is or are...I merely list the possibilities..as Opinions are not fact...just Opinions...Possibilities are merely possibilities...
Why should anyone who professes a belief in Jesus...his teachings...his words of Prophecy...that considers the possibility that America is Mystery Babylon or The Beast of Revelation have to pack their bags and leave America...
Your whole statement is Un-American...as people in your Nation have the right to believe anything they want to believe..and the right to speak or write anything they desire to write as long as it is not Illegal....
I personally live upon earth in a location known as Turtle Island...
How long have your ancestors lived in America...and was their a time before America was a Nation...or your ancestors lived in America...Which according to what I read the Founders of your Nation patterened your Nation after Rome...
And George Washington and many with him were Deists & Freemasons...as the Washington Monument is said to be a Freemason Symbol that could possibily construed as Idolatry....as even the Freemason Aprons are filled with many symbols that could be construed as Idolatry...
Do you even know what Idolatry is...and that Idolatry is an Abomination before the God of Israel...
Rome was conquering Nation, too...Senate...Mightiest Armies upon the Earth in that neck of the woods of that...Taxes...Romans were called this thing...Free...
And from what I read the Founders of America...Mostly Deists & Freemasons patterned America after the Republic of Rome...
But what I do I know about history?
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/3/2007 7:09:22 PM
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I am "Un-American" because I am not American. However, I am certainly not "Anti-American". With respect, it was you who raised the view that America is the final-days Babylon, that seems far more anti-American than anything I said.
What you have said here is on the right track
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Which according to what I read the Founders of your Nation patterened your Nation after Rome...
And George Washington and many with him were Deists & Freemasons...as the Washington Monument is said to be a Freemason Symbol that could possibily construed as Idolatry....as even the Freemason Aprons are filled with many symbols that could be construed as Idolatry...
There is much more I could say on this, I suspect our views are similar. However, the marks of evil are upon many nations, religions, and institutions around the world. Satan's abominations extend beyond both the borders of Islam, and the borders of America.
I have walked the streets of Bangkok, and seen the offerings made to their little fat demon idols in nearly every shop or restaurant. And as a middle aged european male, I could not walk very far without being approached by pimps. When I didn't want their "girls" I was offered their "boys"!
And, I could also tell you some things about my country (New Zealand)
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/3/2007 7:45:04 PM
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Why should anyone who professes a belief in Jesus...his teachings...his words of Prophecy...that considers the possibility that America is Mystery Babylon or The Beast of Revelation have to pack their bags and leave America...
It is certainly not my view that all Christians should leave America, as I have made clear. However, I have seen many American Christians wringing their hands and going on about America being Babylon. Well, in my view, if a person is genuinely convinced of this, then they are bound to interprete Revelation 18:4 as a commandment to leave.
The main reason that I point this out, is to highlight the absurdity of the view (that America is Babylon)
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/3/2007 9:24:53 PM
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It's only your opinion that it is obsurd America is Mystery Babylon. America's System is worldwide, and also is a part of the U.N. located in New York which may be the Great City.
Also found in Mystery Babylon is the Voice of the Bridegroom & the Bride. John was called a Voice Crying in the Wilderness or a Voice of God, A Prophet sent by God to warn the Israelites as well as this world.
The Voice of the Bridegroom therefore could be a Prophet in Mystery Babylon as well as the Bride being those who do not have any love nor worship after Mystery Babylon who turned away from the world of man to the Spiritual Kingdom Jesus taught that is not of the World of Man.
Mystery Babylon's combination could possibily mean it's Political, Religious, Economical, & Educational system all of which it used along with the U.N. to blackmail other Nations with Economic sanctions or the use of Worldly Military Force just as Rome used, and other Nations of the World of Men who loved this world, worldly power, and wealth have used.
The Founders of America who were primarily Deists & Freemasons patterened America after the Roman Republic according to my reading.
The Washington Monument is actually an Obelisk that could be construed as a symbol of Freemason Idolatry.
The Project for a new American Century outlined the current wars in the middle east to gain more worldly power & wealth. Sounds a lot like the Beast of Revelation especially when the question is asked, who can make war with the Beast.
What would the Image of The Beast be? Quite possibly Worldly Wealth & Military Power upon the Earth.
Neither the Voice of the Bridegroom or the Bride would be found in the Middle Eastern Nations, nor would the Great City.
Jesus said his Father's Kingdom was not of the World of Man. He didn't say his Father's Kingdom was America or any other Nation upon the Earth. The devil offered Jesus rule over all his worldly kingdoms if Jesus would worship him. Jesus declined the offer to rule over the devil's worldly kingdoms.
The Tribes of Israel asked God for a King so they could like the other Nations upon the Earth they envied. God told them a King would enslave them, but he knew that they did not want what he wanted for them, they just wanted to be like the other Nations.
So God gave them a King. They ended up with both Herods & the Caesars of Rome as their Kings.
Rome was a conquering Nation with this thing...A Senate...with this thing...The mightiest armies upon the Earth in that neck of the woods at that time...With this thing...Taxes...and to be a Roman was to be called this thing...Free...
In Rome people had this thing...Freedom of Worship...to worship any God or Gods of their choice as long as they did not teach any sedition towards Caesar...
A vast majority of the Israelites did this thing when offered Jesus...They said...Caesar is our King..We have no other King than Caesar...They rejected their Messiah, the Spiritual King who taught of his Father's Spiritual Kingdom for their worldly king...Caesar...of Rome...
Freewill...
Just interests me when people start promoting themselves to the status of God and of themselves think they have some right to tell other people what to think, write, or where to live...if their beliefs are different using what are called...Bully Tatics...which actually according to the Constitution & Bill of Rights of America...are Un-American....
There are articles on the Net about this things..and how people use these...Bully Tatics as False Patriotism.
While the King Herod's and Caesar's of Rome where the law & powerful in this world...their rule only extended to this world..and life is short in this world...then they come under the Eternal Authority and Decider who is the Law...Jesus.
Who said there will be many coming to him saying they taught in his name, healed in his name, and prophecied in his name..and he will tell them to depart from him as they are the Workers of Inquity and never knew him...
They never knew him anymore than the vast majority of Israelites knew him even though they had the Torah & Prophecies of the Torah...
I wouldn't be surprised if the Religious Political Pharisee's of that day thought they owned God, and they were Godly men.
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/3/2007 10:24:12 PM
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You guys really need to get real, and get some scripture.
Matthew 23:35
That upon you [Jerusalem] may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
Revelation 18:24
And in her [Babylon] was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
There cannot possibly be two or more places that God will hold guilty of ALL the slain on the earth. Indeed, there is only one, and it is Jerusalem.
Questions?
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/3/2007 10:35:45 PM
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You have said a lot of things that I have no trouble agreeing with (You forgot to mention that the Statue of Liberty is an alter to the goddess Ishtar, and the American $1 note identifies which god it's financial system trusts), however your opening paragraph highlights a contradiction in your position.
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It's only your opinion that it is obsurd America is Mystery Babylon. America's System is worldwide, and also is a part of the U.N. located in New York which may be the Great City.
This is what you need to think about. Is
a) "Americas system is worldwide" (as you have said), or is,
b) The worldwide system is that which is found in America?
It is a matter of who is in control of the system, or where "ownership" lies. America has (and is) part of the system, however to say that it is "Americas system" implies that America has imposed it's system worldwide. The roots and cause of the problem go back further than the founding of the USA however, making that position untenable. Simply put, America is not old enough, big enough, or important enough to be identified as
"drunk with the blood of the saints and the blood of the martyrs of Jesus" (Rev 17:6)
"Mother of the Abominations of the earth" (Rev 17:5)
"a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit,, a cage for every hated and unclean bird" (Rev 18:2) etc etc.
Anyway, I have gone off topic enough, I won't say anymore until I have the material ready for a new thread. To sort of head back on topic, I would say that Islam is not old enough, big enough, or important enough, either.
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/4/2007 1:11:33 AM
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lecoop,
The scripture in Matthew 23 is directed at the scribes and the Pharisees, the hypocrites. These guys, although dwelling in the physical Jerusalem, are part and parcel of spiritual Babylon. That is, they are in rebellion. You have added (in parenthesis) the word "Jerusalem', to make the scripture say what it doesn't. How can "Jerusalem - the city of God", be interchangeable with "Babylon"? It is not a physical place that God will hold accountable for the blood, it is those who in their rebellion have murdered or persecuted the prophets.
Now, no doubt you may point out the lament in verse 37. Here, the Lord is pointing out an apparent contradiction, it is those who have been called to the city of God (ie the Jews) who have rejected those who have been sent. As a result, their house is left desolate, and they will not see Him until they say "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord", a reference to His coming appearing.
So, here the Lords message is a stunning rebuke, identifying His accusers with those who reject the messengers of God, followed by an expression of the love of God and a call to repentance.
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/4/2007 6:35:42 PM
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lecoop,
The scripture in Matthew 23 is directed at the scribes and the Pharisees, the hypocrites. These guys, although dwelling in the physical Jerusalem, are part and parcel of spiritual Babylon. That is, they are in rebellion. You have added (in parenthesis) the word "Jerusalem', to make the scripture say what it doesn't. How can "Jerusalem - the city of God", be interchangeable with "Babylon"? It is not a physical place that God will hold accountable for the blood, it is those who in their rebellion have murdered or persecuted the prophets.
Now, no doubt you may point out the lament in verse 37. Here, the Lord is pointing out an apparent contradiction, it is those who have been called to the city of God (ie the Jews) who have rejected those who have been sent. As a result, their house is left desolate, and they will not see Him until they say "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord", a reference to His coming appearing.
So, here the Lords message is a stunning rebuke, identifying His accusers with those who reject the messengers of God, followed by an expression of the love of God and a call to repentance.
Tony.nz, that was just one scripture, i.e., that God would hold Jerusalem responsible for the martyrs of the whole world. How can you get around a very plain verse that says the Great whore babylon is a city?
Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
This verse is about as plain as anything could be: the Great Whore Babylon is the city of Jerusalem.
Coop
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/4/2007 10:27:40 PM
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You guys really need to get real, and get some scripture.
Matthew 23:35
That upon you [Jerusalem] may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
Revelation 18:24
And in her [Babylon] was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
There cannot possibly be two or more places that God will hold guilty of ALL the slain on the earth. Indeed, there is only one, and it is Jerusalem.
Questions?
Coop
Just so its clear...The word "Babylon" means confusion, but it is also a place....Actually Babylon is located just outside of Baghdad. Nowhere in scripture is it stated or suggested that Babylon & Jerusalem are one in the same.
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/5/2007 2:10:25 AM
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Revelation 13:18 "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."
Wisdom comes from knowledge, and all wisdom is from God, from wisdom comes understanding. We were told to "count the number of the beast". This was written in Greek, and the Greek word means more then counting numbers. You simple can't understand this meaning if you don't understand this Greek word. The word is #5585 in Strong's Greek dictionary, and it means to "calculate by counting the stones that are warn smooth over a long period of time."
What stones? We were told in chapter two, we would receive a new stone with a new name written on it. This word "count" originated from that word "stone" of chapter two of the book of Genesis. These are the only places in the Bible this word for count, or stone is used. So we must enumerate, or calculate these stones worn smooth over a long period of time. "Their rock is not our Rock, and his stones are not our Stones," is what the overcomers will sing, as the "Song of Moses tells us in Deuteronomy 32. God is our Rock, and Satan is the false rock, but which stones are we to count?
The stones are the number of man, that man is Satan, and if you know Satan you will know his children. Those stones are his children [offspring]. The "mark of the beast" number [6-6-6] then is to count, or know Satan's children over a long period of time. They are the "Kenites", the offspring of Cain, who was the child of Satan, through Eve, who was "beguiled in the Garden of Eden".
Jesus said in Revelation 2 and 3 that the Churches of Smyrna and Philadelphia were the only acceptable churches to Him, because they knew who the Kenites were. The Kenites were "those who said they were Jews, and lied; because they were of the synagogue of Satan". The seven churches are the seven types of churches existing in these last days. Five are not acceptable to God, while the two are.
http://www.theseason.org/revelation/revelation13.htm
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/5/2007 3:34:29 AM
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lecoop,
The scripture in Matthew 23 is directed at the scribes and the Pharisees, the hypocrites. These guys, although dwelling in the physical Jerusalem, are part and parcel of spiritual Babylon. That is, they are in rebellion. You have added (in parenthesis) the word "Jerusalem', to make the scripture say what it doesn't. How can "Jerusalem - the city of God", be interchangeable with "Babylon"? It is not a physical place that God will hold accountable for the blood, it is those who in their rebellion have murdered or persecuted the prophets.
Now, no doubt you may point out the lament in verse 37. Here, the Lord is pointing out an apparent contradiction, it is those who have been called to the city of God (ie the Jews) who have rejected those who have been sent. As a result, their house is left desolate, and they will not see Him until they say "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord", a reference to His coming appearing.
So, here the Lords message is a stunning rebuke, identifying His accusers with those who reject the messengers of God, followed by an expression of the love of God and a call to repentance.
Tony.nz, that was just one scripture, i.e., that God would hold Jerusalem responsible for the martyrs of the whole world. How can you get around a very plain verse that says the Great whore babylon is a city?
Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
This verse is about as plain as anything could be: the Great Whore Babylon is the city of Jerusalem.
Coop
Well, if we are going to get literal, I will start looking for a women dressed in scarlet with peculiar writing on her head. Rev 17 & 18 describes Babylon more frequently as a women, than it does as a city. In any case, you might want to look at my post "The city is an onion", and have a go at that one.
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/5/2007 3:59:58 AM
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So, the father of these Kenites must have been Ken?, Right? And, if Satan was their father, Satan's name is Ken? Short for Kenneth?
Actually, they seem to be fairly lightly mentioned in scripture, and I can not see any reference to them in Revelation at all. As for Cain being the physical offspring of Satan, that is way off track. There is no evidence that the temptation of Eve was of a sexual nature, that is man inspired speculation. Read Genesis 4:1. "Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain" That is, Adam had sexual intercourse with Eve, and as a result, she conceived Cain. Plain and simple.
In regard to Strongs ref 5585, I have looked it up, and it makes no mention of stones, or a long period of time. It just says: to calculate, to estimate:- count. Do you have any other authority for this, or are you just making it up?
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/5/2007 4:14:27 AM
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I have done a quick little bit of research into this "stuff" raised by RighttheWrong. here is a link
http://www.carm.org/chapel/serpent_seed.htm
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/5/2007 5:37:47 AM
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Well, you can believe what you want, but I will believe the bible. Does it say that Satan knew Eve, and she conceived and bore a son? NO.
And the link you provided uses a classic straw man argument. Although it is a common misconception amongst the uninformed (because it is unfortunately often used as a children's illustration), the bible does not say that Satan tempted Eve with an apple, and no mature Christian believes this.
It was the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Although the scripture is not specific, she was probably tempted to seek after "hidden wisdom", witchcraft or a similar sort of esoteric knowledge. Which seems to be similar what your teacher is doing, making up "knowledge" which goes beyond (and contradicts) the revelation of scripture, according to his own vain imagination.
Scripture is very specific, Cain was conceived as a result of an act of sexual intercourse between Adam and Eve.
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/5/2007 6:10:22 AM
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Let me ask you a question,do you feel that it was not possible for satan to have sex with Eve or that he just did'nt?
I will leave you with this
15 And I will put enmity*1 between thee and the woman*2, and between thy seed and her seed*3; it*4shall bruise thy head*5, and thou*6shalt bruise his heel*7.
Explanations from above verse: *1 enmity = Hebrew word #342 'eybah (ay-baw'); from 340; hostility: a primitive root; to hate (as one of an opposite tribe or party); hence to be hostile. *2 between thee and the woman = Not enmity between a garden snake and a woman, that doesn't even make sense! But enmity between the offspring of the serpent (satan) and the offspring of the woman (Eve, through Adam, and thus of God). *3 between thy seed and her seed = seed: Hebrew word #2233 zera`- seed, sowing, offspring, a sowing, seed, semen virile, offspring, descendants, posterity, children. From #2232:to become pregnant, to be made pregnant. *4 it = Jesus Christ. *5 bruise thy head = Jesus destroying satan. *6 thou = Satan. *7 bruise his heel = Satan causing the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 6/5/2007 11:28:40 AM
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ta_mosquito
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RE: 666 and Islam - The Mark of the Beast - 1/17/2008 11:32:53 PM
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cybrjewls
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Amen.
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There is the symbolic interpetation of the Mark of the Beast...but there is also a very literal possibility of the Mark of Beast, also. According to the Book of Revelation any that worship the Beast or the Image of the Beast, or love & worship Mystery Babylon will incur Gods' wrath.
I consider the possibility Mystery Babylon sets up the Worldly Government that is The Beast..as many including current Politicians have called for the New World Order or a One World Government that many think is the final government of man's worldy governments that is The Beast.
I consider the False Prophet is possibily the False Prophets of any of man's Man Made Religions be they Christianity, Judaism, Islam, or any others that are out there that lead people astray with the False Prophets of Christianity & Judaism loving and worshiping after the Beast, the Image of the Beast, (Wordly Power & Wealth) being deceived by Politicians, Bankers, and Corporations while thinking the Beast is doing God's work when the Beast is doing the Devil's work.
For the Merchants of the Earth were great men who...Deceived all the Nations of the Earth with their Sorceries...
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