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Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 10/25/2008 9:02:13 PM
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Lady_of_Faith
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Everyone at my church loves our pastor, as he's an excellent teacher and preacher, however while my uncle was telling me about an incident, he said it was after he went out to help the pastor from his car. He's a deacon. At first I didn't think anything of it, just a nice gesture, but he said it was 'his turn' to help Pastor from his car. Another deacon helps him with his coat, his briefcase, etc.
I could see if the Pastor was elderly, but ours is only in his forties and very healthy and fit. I have also heard the Pastor bark orders to the deacons as if they were servants, and I also watched them stop whatever they're doing, jump up and proceed to fulfill the request. From my understanding, deacons are the officers of the church and yes, there are certain standards that they abide by, but after witnessing being told what to do and such made me do a double take.
So, I ask, is it okay for a pastor to treat their deacons like flunkies?
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RE: Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 10/25/2008 9:09:32 PM
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manda59
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No, not okay. In fact, the pastor himself is supposed to be a servant, so I don't see how a servant could expect to be served too.
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RE: Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 10/25/2008 9:47:06 PM
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Lady_of_Faith
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Yeah, glad to know I'm not the only one seeing this as inappropriate.
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RE: Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 10/25/2008 10:57:11 PM
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In his forties (assuming he doesn't have some sort of major illness or deformity) and he expects help out of his car and all that?!!!!!!!
Why are the deacons and all those guys even going along with that? What's wrong with THEM and their judgment to even consider doing all that?
Your pastor needs a swift kick to the rear bumper!
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RE: Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 10/26/2008 8:08:39 AM
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It would depend on how much stuff he had to bring in, whether he needed help or not.
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So, I ask, is it okay for a pastor to treat their deacons like flunkies?
Is he treating them like flunkies, or are they volunteering trying to curry favor?
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RE: Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 10/26/2008 6:24:24 PM
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I am not saying that the following is the case with this particular pastor...
but... I have seen pastors before who act as if they are some type of celebrity. There is one in particular in So. Cal... who has his deacons hurry and usher him off stage when he's done preaching... as if the congregation is going to rush him for his autograph or something!
There was another visiting pastor once... he came to my husbands families church in the Mid-west... He acted the same way... he came with BODY GUARDS... and had his deacons throw his jacket over him as if the paparazzi was hiding around the corner.
These are just regular pastors... no Billy Graham by an stretch of the imagination. However... not even Billy Graham acts like that!
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RE: Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 10/26/2008 8:39:36 PM
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So, I ask, is it okay for a pastor to treat their deacons like flunkies?
Well maybe they are if they are acting like that. What sort of man in his right mind would fall for such foolishness?
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RE: Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 10/26/2008 11:03:42 PM
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So, I ask, is it okay for a pastor to treat their deacons like flunkies?
Well maybe they are if they are acting like that. What sort of man in his right mind would fall for such foolishness?
followers. And I'm not talking about Christ Followers.
Men who fall for this are usually those who try hard to please man in order to gain respect and position. Sadly, they usually never achieve either.
PS... men don't hold the exclusive in this either... women do the same.
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RE: Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 10/30/2008 10:52:44 PM
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My job is to help the pastor of the church where I am employed. I am employed and paid as a helper and called an "administrative assistant." My focus is on putting bulletins, newsletters, advertising, and flyers together; taking care of phone requests and other phone business; keeping the office stocked; doing the bookkeeping; mail, and a myriad of other little duties. He makes his own coffee, gets himself out of his own car and off his own motorcycle, I don't help him dress, and I don't spoon-feed him either.
What a silly little weazle that pastor the OP wrote about is. He needs a sound wakeup call, and if he truly is G-d's, he will get one. G-d always corrects those who are His, but He doesn't tend to correct those who are not, unless they are standing in the way of one of His children.
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RE: Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 10/31/2008 6:43:33 AM
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Seems like the Pastor is getting the short end of the stick here, (in this thread) did he ask for this treatment? Maybe we just got some nuts working out their own guilt trip. (not in this thread, the Church)
If it was the deacon’s idea to start with, it might be hard to stop without hurting someone’s feelings.
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RE: Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 10/31/2008 1:07:39 PM
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I have also heard the Pastor bark orders to the deacons as if they were servants
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RE: Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 10/31/2008 3:55:59 PM
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No, not okay. In fact, the pastor himself is supposed to be a servant, so I don't see how a servant could expect to be served too.
Bingo.
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RE: Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 11/2/2008 2:30:30 PM
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Gee I'm happy if someone volunteers to carry my briefcase - just kidding!! A pastor is first of all a servant and the church I pastor is wonderful, there is always someone to help, they are so good to me but I certainly don't expect special treatment. It sounds to me like the pastor has a large ego or that the elders are currying favour.
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RE: Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 11/2/2008 3:16:43 PM
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When ever folks start to want to carry my stuff and open doors for me etc. I check my billfold to be sure it is secure.
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RE: Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 11/7/2008 7:48:00 AM
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tomhillbilly
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call me old fashioned but isnt a man supposed to do everything possible for themselves? this pastor sounds like some sort of diva
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RE: Serving your Pastor, to what extent? - 11/7/2008 11:21:52 AM
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rcjames
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call me old fashioned but isnt a man supposed to do everything possible for themselves? this pastor sounds like some sort of diva
That is a possibility or else the deacons are a bunch of kiss ups, and the Pastor does not want to offend them by telling them no.
Thanks
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< Message edited by rcjames -- 11/7/2008 11:29:42 AM >
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