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Pastors Can Speak Out On U.S. Election Issues Without R... - 10/14/2008 12:30:37 AM   
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"Pastors should throw away the muzzle of fear and replace it with a megaphone of boldness"

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WASHINGTON, September 31, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Pastors and church leaders do not need to violate IRS regulations on political activity in order to impact the 2008 elections. There are a wide variety of permissible activities that will activate voters and encourage them to vote according to biblical values.

While churches may not endorse or oppose candidates for elective office, pastors can preach on biblical and moral issues, such as abortion and traditional marriage, can urge the congregation to register and vote, and can overview the positions of the candidates. Churches may distribute nonpartisan voter guides, register voters, provide transportation to the polls, hold candidate forums, and introduce visiting candidates.

Since 1954, when the political endorsement/opposition prohibition was added to the Internal Revenue Code ("IRC"), only one church has ever lost its IRS letter ruling, but even that church did not lose its tax-exempt status. Churches, unlike other nonprofit organizations, do not need an IRS letter ruling to be tax-exempt. That case involved the Church at Pierce Creek in New York, which placed full-page ads in USA Today and the Washington Times opposing then-Governor Bill Clinton for President. The ads were sponsored by the church and donations were solicited. The IRS revoked the church's letter ruling, but not its tax-exempt status.


http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/oct/08100102.html

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RE: Pastors Can Speak Out On U.S. Election Issues Witho... - 10/14/2008 1:39:19 AM   
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"Pastors should throw away the muzzle of fear and replace it with a megaphone of boldness"



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Our pastor has no fear at all about speaking out on moral/political issues. He is encouraging our congregation to vote for prop.8 (traditional marriage) this coming November. He stays within the tax-exempt law because he never endorses any particular candidate that is running.

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RE: Pastors Can Speak Out On U.S. Election Issues Witho... - 10/14/2008 7:33:20 AM   
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My dream is that those pastors preach to the politicians and hold them accountable for their views. They need to ask them what their pro-life action plan is and what is their strategy to overturn Roe v. Wade. How they are going to introduce legislation to put into law that life begins at conception!!! It's easy and hypocritical to grasp a Bible and say I'm pro-life and then do virtually nothing to stop it.

Otherwise these "pro-life" politicians are content not to upset the apple cart and do the minimum. In 35 years they have made no measureable difference in this fight for life. That is why, as a political tool, this issue holds no sway over my vote now.

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RE: Pastors Can Speak Out On U.S. Election Issues Witho... - 10/14/2008 9:45:25 AM   
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Otherwise these "pro-life" politicians are content not to upset the apple cart and do the minimum. In 35 years they have made no measureable difference in this fight for life. That is why, as a political tool, this issue holds no sway over my vote now


Our state legislators have done a wonderful job in helping to prevent abortion on demand. Our state has enacted parential concent (both parents signature required), 24 hour waiting period after consultation (meaning you and a friend must wait 24 hours with the added cost before the abortion can be preformed --for most that hotel stay, time off work, money for food and transportation) and such strict medical oversight that only one clinic preforms abortions in our entire state.
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RE: Pastors Can Speak Out On U.S. Election Issues Witho... - 10/14/2008 10:07:02 AM   
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There is no restrictions on speaking out on issues, just endorsing a particular candidate.

If a Chruch feels that they have to speak out for or against a particular candidate then all they have to do is forgo the 501(c)3 tax designation.



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RE: Pastors Can Speak Out On U.S. Election Issues Witho... - 10/14/2008 11:43:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SILVERNAME

"Pastors should throw away the muzzle of fear and replace it with a megaphone of boldness"

Commentary

WASHINGTON, September 31, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Pastors and church leaders do not need to violate IRS regulations on political activity in order to impact the 2008 elections. There are a wide variety of permissible activities that will activate voters and encourage them to vote according to biblical values.

While churches may not endorse or oppose candidates for elective office, pastors can preach on biblical and moral issues, such as abortion and traditional marriage, can urge the congregation to register and vote, and can overview the positions of the candidates. Churches may distribute nonpartisan voter guides, register voters, provide transportation to the polls, hold candidate forums, and introduce visiting candidates.

Since 1954, when the political endorsement/opposition prohibition was added to the Internal Revenue Code ("IRC"), only one church has ever lost its IRS letter ruling, but even that church did not lose its tax-exempt status. Churches, unlike other nonprofit organizations, do not need an IRS letter ruling to be tax-exempt. That case involved the Church at Pierce Creek in New York, which placed full-page ads in USA Today and the Washington Times opposing then-Governor Bill Clinton for President. The ads were sponsored by the church and donations were solicited. The IRS revoked the church's letter ruling, but not its tax-exempt status.


http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/oct/08100102.html

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This is only news to the uninformed. Any pastor not aware of this information is not fit for the pulpit, IMHO.

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RE: Pastors Can Speak Out On U.S. Election Issues Witho... - 10/14/2008 11:50:36 AM   
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They need to be speaking on the issues and not just at election time but an ongoing basis as to how their congregations can be salt and light in dark and decaying times.
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RE: Pastors Can Speak Out On U.S. Election Issues Witho... - 10/14/2008 1:56:36 PM   
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With a biblical point of view of course.

I'm afraid many of them are afraid to address sin much less real political issues. As with the pols in office many of them fear loss of position and or popularity.

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RE: Pastors Can Speak Out On U.S. Election Issues Witho... - 10/14/2008 1:58:52 PM   
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I certainly don't include my pastor in the "afraid" category but I do know some locally who are.


The church must get bold with the gospel and the truth message.

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RE: Pastors Can Speak Out On U.S. Election Issues Witho... - 10/14/2008 2:14:05 PM   
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I certainly don't include my pastor in the "afraid" category but I do know some locally who are.


The church must get bold with the gospel and the truth message.


My pastor is certainly not "afraid" to address sin, or preach the gospel, either.

THOUGH, right before the Iowa primaries, Mike Huckabee did come to our church....and spoke from the pulpit on Sunday morning in church (he gave the sermon)....

As much as I like Mike, I still thought it was totally inappropriate to have a candidate for public office in the pulpit on Sunday morning in church (regardless of his "previous career", or whatever).....even though nothing "political" was said (other than acknowledging that he was a "Christian", and a candidate running for Prez)...........the "message" was still there, and VERY clear.....: Vote for THIS GUY because he is "one of us".....

and, yeah....he did "preach" a really good message....great speaker.....

but, do you think he'll bother coming back anytime soon....as just "mike huckabee, the pastor" and not "mike huckabee, I want/need your vote"???? I am not holding my breath.

my sunday morning church service was really a "campaign stop"....

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RE: Pastors Can Speak Out On U.S. Election Issues Witho... - 10/15/2008 3:17:02 AM   
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When the Christian Church accepts tax-exempt status is sends the wrong message to the world message - that religion has become state subsidized.

Can you imagine Christ accepting tax-exemept status from the Romans?
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RE: Pastors Can Speak Out On U.S. Election Issues Witho... - 10/15/2008 4:01:02 PM   
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People should know what tax-exempt status is and the implications of not having it before throwing stones.

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RE: Pastors Can Speak Out On U.S. Election Issues Witho... - 10/15/2008 5:23:10 PM   
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quote:

This is only news to the uninformed. Any pastor not aware of this information is not fit for the pulpit, IMHO.


I have to say the majority of Americans aren't aware of the specific lines that our government presumes are supposed to separate church and state, including many judges and politicians.

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RE: Pastors Can Speak Out On U.S. Election Issues Witho... - 10/15/2008 11:20:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 47.samuel

When the Christian Church accepts tax-exempt status is sends the wrong message to the world message - that religion has become state subsidized.

Can you imagine Christ accepting tax-exemept status from the Romans?


That would be true if we had one denomination that would be the Church of America with the President as it's head. But Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists and Christians et al all enjoy this status. If churches were taxed then the collection plate would be passed more often or maybe you would be paying a mandatory tithe.

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