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RE: Obama-Muslim source outed - 10/14/2008 1:36:12 PM
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ken1906_4
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I saw an article about this guy and was like, "so this is the guy who may have started the rumor that Senator Obama was a Muslim". Well, I have to admit he did one heck of a job. It really does not matter because despite this and other evidence that shoots down the belief of Senator Obama being a Muslim, people are still going to believe that he is. Though I do wonder if calling him a Muslim is nothing more than a code word for calling him something else since it has been reported about for more than 3 years that he isn’t Muslim, but I digress. Anyway, if I was Senator Obama I would sue this guy for defamation of character.
On a side note, I still don't understand the Muslim argument. I know people have a lot of bad things to say about Senator Obama's former church and its Christian authenticity or maybe lack thereof, but I have an extremely hard time believing that a practicing Muslim would spend 20 years in a Christian church. Somewhere along the way the love, grace and mercy of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ must have been preached. To go that long as Muslim without once standing up to give your point of view from an Islamic perspective shoots holes in the idea of his alleged Muslim faith.
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RE: Obama-Muslim source outed - 10/14/2008 1:40:31 PM
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GroupW
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He's a real piece of work. The NYT had an article on him a few days ago & quoted the text of what the Illinois Bar Assn had to say about him when he was rejected by them as an Illinois attorney. It would be amusing if it weren't tragic.
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RE: Obama-Muslim source outed - 10/14/2008 1:48:27 PM
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To go that long as Muslim without once standing up to give your point of view from an Islamic perspective shoots holes in the idea of his alleged Muslim faith.
UNLESS he has been being privately groomed for the presidency.
Realize the ultimate goals of Islam. Then ask yourself, "How would this be most effectively acheived in the western world?"
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RE: Obama-Muslim source outed - 10/14/2008 1:49:56 PM
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GroupW
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LOL - I hear the catholic schools in Indonesia are really good at that.
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RE: Obama-Muslim source outed - 10/14/2008 2:17:44 PM
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Hmmm...here we go..and Mr Hannity the obnoxious invited as guess, gave air time to this guy knowngly all of that? What is Mr Hannity excuses now?
Than I conclude that behind all the false rumours around the net regarding Mr Obama etc it is all fabricated by this who is Andy Martin guy anti-semitic also?
Interesting...the ones passing the rumors around new the font was not clean or pure and still propagated it anyways plus adding more venoms.
Now in all of that situation going on, I trully do want to know if there is anything comming from the real Arabs and Muslims Americans reggarding the use of their ethinicity and religion in such disrespectfull manners. Are any of those groups mentioned around reacting about what is going on? And take the matters to courts or to the public about discriminations etc?
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RE: Obama-Muslim source outed - 10/14/2008 3:20:31 PM
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rcjames
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LOL - I hear the catholic schools in Indonesia are really good at that.
Before the conversion to Catholic school, Obama attended a muslim school and the records there indicate his religion was listed as Muslim.
Not claiming that he is a "Manchurian Candidate", just pointing our more "Inconsistancies" in what he says.
Way more importanat to me than a few years in a muslim country is the blank few years (6) from his record and his memory during his college years.
He does not remember where he lived, who his roomates were, what papers he wrote in colledge, his grades, his transcripts. He does remember 2 best friends (Muslims) and a trip to Pakistan (but doesn't remember what he did there or how he paid for the trip).
He does remember taking a lot of drugs (self described as being in a haze) during those years, and one guy who was a roomate at an apartment he cannot remember was arrested and sentenced for dealing hard drugs.
All this from his own writings, so no wonder folks are seriously cncerned about who this guy really is.
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RE: Obama-Muslim source outed - 10/14/2008 3:51:44 PM
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To go that long as Muslim without once standing up to give your point of view from an Islamic perspective shoots holes in the idea of his alleged Muslim faith.
UNLESS he has been being privately groomed for the presidency.
Realize the ultimate goals of Islam. Then ask yourself, "How would this be most effectively acheived in the western world?"
That would be most effectively by grooming a corn-bread white war hero Republican, not some dark-skinned guy with Hussein in his name, LOL. 
At this point, which of the two does the world seem to be fawning over?
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RE: Obama-Muslim source outed - 10/14/2008 3:53:20 PM
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LOL - I hear the catholic schools in Indonesia are really good at that.
I thought Obama went to a public school in Indonesia.
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RE: Obama-Muslim source outed - 10/14/2008 4:48:33 PM
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rcjames
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LOL - I hear the catholic schools in Indonesia are really good at that.
I thought Obama went to a public school in Indonesia.
I guess that Catholic and muslim schools in Indonesia are public schools.
Now the Obama camp claims that they had to declare Obama's faith as muslim to get him into public school.
That is not the case; I was a missionary on the Island of Timor in Indonesia aruond the time Obama was there and the Christian children registered their faith as Christian and attended the schools.
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RE: Obama-Muslim source outed - 10/14/2008 5:03:56 PM
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LOL - I hear the catholic schools in Indonesia are really good at that.
I thought Obama went to a public school in Indonesia.
I guess that Catholic and muslim schools in Indonesia are public schools.
Now the Obama camp claims that they had to declare Obama's faith as muslim to get him into public school.
That is not the case; I was a missionary on the Island of Timor in Indonesia aruond the time Obama was there and the Christian children registered their faith as Christian and attended the schools.
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I agree. I was living and working there in the 80s in Jakarta. There is generally no problem with children of different faiths in oublic school, Catholic school, or other Christian school. There is a problem, however, at Muslim schools. You MUST be a muslim.
Also, in Indonesia, everyone is registered by a religion. Atheism is not allowed. A person's religion is present on every official document. For children, they are automatically registered by the faith of their parents... especially the faith of the father. The child has no choice in the matter. Since Obama's step father was Muslim, he would be registered as such automatically.
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RE: Obama-Muslim source outed - 10/14/2008 6:07:31 PM
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GroupW
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LOL - I hear the catholic schools in Indonesia are really good at that.
I thought Obama went to a public school in Indonesia.
He went to both - for about 2 years each if I remember right.
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RE: Obama-Muslim source outed - 10/14/2008 6:55:20 PM
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Lest we forget that Slanthead has a long and distinguished history of hitching his wagon to total nutbags without bothering to check their backgrounds - another example Dr. William Hammesfahr who only examined Terri Schaivo once, erroneously stated she could recover from her PVS, and whom Hannity falsely (and repeatedly) claimed had been nominated for a Nobel Prize in Medicine.
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RE: Obama-Muslim source outed - 10/14/2008 7:00:03 PM
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GroupW
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LOL - I hear the catholic schools in Indonesia are really good at that.
Before the conversion to Catholic school, Obama attended a muslim school and the records there indicate his religion was listed as Muslim.
Not claiming that he is a "Manchurian Candidate", just pointing our more "Inconsistancies" in what he says.
Way more importanat to me than a few years in a muslim country is the blank few years (6) from his record and his memory during his college years.
He does not remember where he lived, who his roomates were, what papers he wrote in colledge, his grades, his transcripts. He does remember 2 best friends (Muslims) and a trip to Pakistan (but doesn't remember what he did there or how he paid for the trip).
He does remember taking a lot of drugs (self described as being in a haze) during those years, and one guy who was a roomate at an apartment he cannot remember was arrested and sentenced for dealing hard drugs.
All this from his own writings, so no wonder folks are seriously cncerned about who this guy really is.
Thanks
RC
I can't believe we're kicking this around - he did not go to a muslim school. He went to a public school and was registered there according to the faith of his father which is muslim.
I think I refuted these statements in an earlier post on another thread. This story has been widely reported on and has been retracted by the original group that reported it.
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