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ORIGINAL: SonicStudent

Hi everyone, I have permission to put this thread up for a limited time only, as it leans towards the forum and discussion on the Sabbath.
However, because I wanted an opinion in light of ‘end times’ and more toward how this ‘might’ fit in with a one world religion or anti-christ changing laws and season’s to steer worship to himself in the last days, the moderator will allow it ‘as long as it does not turn into a debate on our views on the Sabbath’, and once we’ve discussed it for a short time she may feel it needs moving.

So please can you help me out, as it confuses me a bit. Here is the post – Please Steer away from Sabbath debate not in light of end times. Thanks
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Hi everyone, I'm hoping someone will help me understand here. This 'Sunday Law' that's being pushed. I've never seen much about it, or given it much thought before, but just landed on it in youtube.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wXfCbei1i2A&feature=related

Things are getting real confusing. It seems that a lot of Christians that hold fast to God's word are upset about it. Saying that enforcement to make the national holy day on Sunday is wrong. That the Sabbath should be a Saturday anyway, and that Sunday worship stems from the worship of the Sun gods, and was introduced by Rome in an attempt to try to get more pagans interested in Christ. I'm sure this has truth, but Sunday worship has not worried us for a 1000 years, why is it an issue now?

They say that conservative christians that try to get radical Christians into seats of power are creating a situation where faith is getting into bed with the state or politics, and that ultimately this will result in the right conditions for 'the woman to ride the beast' as depicted in revelation?

I'm confused Isn't it a good thing if Godly people are seated in power, which would surely help to prevent secular laws being passed? Or am I missing something? someone help me out here!

Also, they say, that creating a world that is made to observe a holy day, which is ultimately not on the original Sabbath day, could well be Satan, fulfilling the prophecy that he causes all, both great and small to worship the beast etc, on 'his' new holy day, changing laws and seasons, and not respecting the law of God which clearly states that the Sabbath was the seventh day of rest, which traditionally is the Saturday?

They say that if we allow this Sunday law to be passed, we may see a future, when we have a world state, that demands worship of multi faiths on the Sunday, and could fulfil this directing of worship to the beast system. Ahhhhh, things are getting confusing.

What are peoples views on this??? Is it just extremist views from the over radicals, or is this a possibility that we are seeing a move that will bring change to God's laws, i.e. the Sabbath??

I mean, is this just blah blah from denominations like the seventh day Adventists, or is it something we should be looking seriously at?

I mean, I can understand how having the freedom to worship on the Sunday, within a free will situation, could be seen as Grace. But if the Sabbath is made mandatory for a Sunday, could this be seen differently than simply, in grace, choosing the Sunday. Could this be seen as a Changing of God’s law? If so, I can see why this is of concern, and how it is different to the past, where Christian’s in grace ‘choose’ to worship on Sunday.

Also, if this ‘is’ just another area where (as they see it) Radical extreme Christians are going over the top, isn’t it just another stone to throw at Conservative Christians by those that want to label us as dividers of the peace and extremists?

Could this indeed be the first stepping stones to unifying all faiths to come together and worship (by law) on the wrong day, and be in a rebellious religion that has indeed changed the law and seasons?

I’m not saying it is in anyway, as to be honest, I can see both sides here. On one hand, if they were right, we could indeed eventually see this transform into a false prophet religious system that allows herself to be duped in to worshiping against God’s law and with other faiths, and that worship eventually being directed to Satan.

But then it could be over the top propaganda being driven by some denominations that simple are pushing there beliefs through fear, as has been done many times in history. Even if this is the case, it could still cause true believers future persecution, as the world looses patience with all ‘Radicals’!

Your views would be appreciated

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ORIGINAL: SonicStudent

I agree with you totally, but it leaves me wondering if this very type of extreme nonsense and lack of understanding might go a long way in getting us Christians that do hold to literal belief in God's word, labeled along with them, and increase the masses current mood we see here in the uk, which is a mood of seeing us 'bible believing' Christians as trouble causers and radicals.

Also is this 'Sunday Law', something that is seriously being considered across the board or just another one of those movements that never gets enough off the ground?

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it leaves me wondering if this very type of extreme nonsense and lack of understanding might go a long way in getting us Christians that do hold to literal belief in God's word, labeled along with them, and increase the masses current mood we see here in the uk, which is a mood of seeing us 'bible believing' Christians as trouble causers and radicals.

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Also is this 'Sunday Law', something that is seriously being considered across the board or just another one of those movements that never gets enough off the ground?

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ORIGINAL: bob97

To shop until you drop in this secular society is so ingrained todayI don't think you could ever pass another blue law...AC or not.

Bob