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Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 2:24:05 PM   
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Hello! I have been seeing a need for a place for us AP moms(and definitely dads) to talk and share about our parenting challenges and victories.

This is NOT a place to debate whether or not AP parents are right or wrong, whether they are going to raise bratty children, or any other derogatory comments.


These are the 8 principles of Attachment Parenting, taken from the API Website-

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1) Prepare for Pregnancy, Birth, and Parenting

Become emotionally and physically prepared for pregnancy and birth. Research available options for healthcare providers and birthing environments, and become informed about routine newborn care. Continuously educate yourself about developmental stages of childhood, setting realistic expectations and remaining flexible.

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2)Feed with Love and Respect

Breastfeeding is the optimal way to satisfy an infant's nutritional and emotional needs. "Bottle Nursing" adapts breastfeeding behaviors to bottle-feeding to help initiate a secure attachment. Follow the feeding cues for both infants and children, encouraging them to eat when they are hungry and stop when they are full. Offer healthy food choices and model healthy eating behavior.


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3)Respond with Sensitivity

Build the foundation of trust and empathy beginning in infancy. Tune in to what your child is communicating to you, then respond consistently and appropriately. Babies cannot be expected to self-soothe, they need calm, loving, empathetic parents to help them learn to regulate their emotions. Respond sensitively to a child who is hurting or expressing strong emotion, and share in their joy.

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4)Use Nurturing Touch

Touch meets a baby's needs for physical contact, affection, security, stimulation, and movement. Skin-to-skin contact is especially effective, such as during breastfeeding, bathing, or massage. Carrying or babywearing also meets this need while on the go. Hugs, snuggling, back rubs, massage, and physical play help meet this need in older children.

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5)Engage in Nighttime Parenting

Babies and children have needs at night just as they do during the day; from hunger, loneliness, and fear, to feeling too hot or too cold. They rely on parents to soothe them and help them regulate their intense emotions. Sleep training techniques can have detrimental physiological and psychological effects. Safe co-sleeping has benefits to both babies and parents.

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(AP parents are anti-CIO and also typically anti-controlled crying)

6)Provide Consistent and Loving Care

Babies and young children have an intense need for the physical presence of a consistent, loving, responsive caregiver: ideally a parent. If it becomes necessary, choose an alternate caregiver who has formed a bond with the child and who cares for him in a way that strengthens the attachment relationship. Keep schedules flexible, and minimize stress and fear during short separations.


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7)Practice Positive Discipline

Positive discipline helps a child develop a conscience guided by his own internal discipline and compassion for others. Discipline that is empathetic, loving, and respectful strengthens the connection between parent and child. Rather than reacting to behavior, discover the needs leading to the behavior. Communicate and craft solutions together while keeping everyone's dignity intact.


(Just a note about this one- I know that all AP parents differ on what is, and what is not acceptable for discipline. I don't mind talking about different methods but please remember that there is a one stop thread for spanking when you choose what to say.)

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8)Strive for Balance in Personal and Family Life

It is easier to be emotionally responsive when you feel in balance. Create a support network, set realistic goals, put people before things, and don't be afraid to say "no". Recognize individual needs within the family and meet them to the greatest extent possible without compromising your physical and emotional health. Be creative, have fun with parenting, and take time to care for yourself.



Have at it, folks!

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 2:32:43 PM   
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Can't wait to get into this one!!!!


we are definitely more the AP parenting style (though we differ in discipline...but like you said, that's another thread mostly)


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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 2:34:28 PM   
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Well, I am all there except for spanking. We are strict, and we spank and that generally locks me out of being "allowed" to call myself an AP parent.

Everything else though, I am totally on board with. It certainly has it's difficulties but so far our kids are turning out reasonably well.

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 2:40:03 PM   
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It won't lock you out here, Maggie.

We go back and forth on spanking, our big thing is doing what works for each child and not having set expectations that one form of discipline must work for everyone.

Last night Micah and I got to talking about different parenting styles. I have sometimes wondered if my siblings and I are benefiting more from my parents AP style(before it was even popular) then we realize, or my parents even realize. I come by AP methods rather naturally, because that is how I was raised but they aren't so natural for Micah. His mom did do CIO, and even left them to CIO at 3 months old when she was "done" nursing them at night. The way our siblings relationships are(and our own) with our parents is also very different. Anyway, it is something interesting to ponder.

Oh, and if ya'll have any good AP link, send them to me and I will put them in the OP!

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 2:42:10 PM   
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same for me. I do spank...but for the most part I would say I'm an ap type of mama
And Maggie..I would agree with you.. your kids ARE pretty cool
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It is a little tougher to be ap-ish while the man is gone. They need a much firmer hand when he's away. But I'm trying very hard to balance the firm discipline they need with the love and grace they also need

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 2:54:44 PM   
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there are a few AP things my mom believed.....like bfing when it wasn't popular to do so (her mom never bf any of the four of them...and she was very much not an AP style), and when my brother was born very early and had to take bottles she refused to prop it up or make him hold it like others around her did...she held him just like she held us nursing. My mom is not a very sympathetic person though...and is always rushing through right now to get to the next thing on her list...then rushes through that to get to the thing after it...etc. So she never was really into all of the AP aspects of parenting.
My dad was not really that connected to us until we were old enough to carry on intelligent conversations with him (like 10yo at least)...so most of the parenting was left to my mom.

I have always leaned more on the side AP...though it has definitely gone back and forth for a few years until we found our groove. At times we tried other things (like CIO) and it just made us feel horrible and made our babies miserable. So we stopped listening to all those people around us that loved giving advice and started going with our gut. That was the best decision ever....since then we follow our gut and don't have to live with guilt over doing something we know deep down is wrong.


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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 3:20:19 PM   
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We are most definitely AP'ers. In all aspects.

My mom wasn't wuth me but was more so with my sister, sort of.

Isabel is only 3 months old but at 6 wks my mom was telling us we were spoiling her by picking her up everytime she cried. I had to brush that off.
Now at 3 months she is asking when we will be putting her in her crib at night. I told her when she stops nursing at night we will think about it. With trave;ing at xmas she is wondering where the baby will sleep...um... with us like always?

I didn't know there was a name for how I wanted to raise my child until this site mentioned it a few years ago.

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 3:28:51 PM   
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Isabel is only 3 months old but at 6 wks my mom was telling us we were spoiling her by picking her up everytime she cried. I had to brush that off.

LOL...my answer to that argument is always....don't we all like and need to be spoiled a little bit!!!! I mean, think about it...how many marriages would go down the drain fast if we didn't spoil our spouses in some way!!


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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 3:36:21 PM   
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I've always considered myself to be an APer in general. Not everyone considers bottlefeeding a child (even if mine was due to physical reasons I was suspect) or certain kinds of discipline AP so I always identify my differences early to head off people's disagreement with our lifestyle.

We came to AP because we had so many difficulties with my first son (bf issues, failure to thrive, digestion issues, colicky, needed less sleep then the average infant, sensitivity issues). He just didn't fit the scheduled feeding/CIO mold. After trying so hard to make things work the way they were 'supposed' to work we just did what did work.

Because of that I consider Attachment Parenting to be 'intuitive parenting' or 'practical parenting.'

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 3:40:27 PM   
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Because of that I consider Attachment Parenting to be 'intuitive parenting' or 'practical parenting.'


DH also calls it "intuitive parenting".

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 3:43:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mrs.Wifey

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Because of that I consider Attachment Parenting to be 'intuitive parenting' or 'practical parenting.'


DH also calls it "intuitive parenting".

I like that!!!

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 4:37:16 PM   
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Ryanne, I'm not going to put your whole OP in quote, but it sounds good to me. It sounds like what a lot of parents just naturally did before people like the Ezzos came along...and if you leave out the pregnancy/nursing/overnight part of it (and also the skin to skin thing..gotta be a little careful about that when it's not your own kid), it's all basically how they tell you to treat children in Early Childhood Education (a big challenge when you have one teacher to twelve toddlers ).

Sometimes, some parents do have to end up letting a kid CIO at times when it is not even their philosophy. My mom said when I was a baby, that at nighttime, I liked to have a fussy time...she tried and tried to console me and rock me and everything..she finally realized that I just wanted to be put down in my crib and left alone for a while at the end of the day..so she would put me down, I would fuss a little, and then go to sleep...but I guess that still goes along with what you're saying..that was still being intuitive to tthe child.

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 4:48:08 PM   
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It sounds like what a lot of parents just naturally did before people like the Ezzos came along...

actually it didn't start with the Ezzo's... back in the 50's Dr Spock was pushing parents away from AP too


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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 5:49:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: peculiar_lady2

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It sounds like what a lot of parents just naturally did before people like the Ezzos came along...

actually it didn't start with the Ezzo's... back in the 50's Dr Spock was pushing parents away from AP too



Oh, thanks for the info. I had heard of Dr. Spock, of course, but I had never really researched out what he had to say.

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 6:28:42 PM   
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What is "Bottle Nursing?" I have never heard of that.

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 6:36:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OneOfHisJewels

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ORIGINAL: peculiar_lady2

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It sounds like what a lot of parents just naturally did before people like the Ezzos came along...

actually it didn't start with the Ezzo's... back in the 50's Dr Spock was pushing parents away from AP too



Oh, thanks for the info. I had heard of Dr. Spock, of course, but I had never really researched out what he had to say.

of course he wasn't the first either...but he definitely pushed things like sleeping through the night, early solids, formula, cio, etc. He came on the scene after WWII when the ladies coming from the factories were replaced by the men and the ladies then went back home, but with a different mindset...and they weren't as drawn to AP things as they had been before the war. By 1950-1960 it had turned into "permissive parenting" ("do as I say not as I do") instead of the AP style...more hands off.


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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 6:38:00 PM   
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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 6:43:09 PM   
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What is "Bottle Nursing?" I have never heard of that.

using a bottle, but doing it like you would if you nursed....YOU feeding it to them, holding/cuddling them while they eat or after (some babies just like to be held, not cuddled though)


eta...oops cross posted...I like that link Ryanne!!!


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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 7:40:05 PM   
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so there are people who bottle feed and don't do that? the only thing on that list i don't do all the time is give him warm bottles. when we are in public he gets room temperature bottles.

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 7:49:18 PM   
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so there are people who bottle feed and don't do that? the only thing on that list i don't do all the time is give him warm bottles. when we are in public he gets room temperature bottles.

unfortunately yes. I know one lady who taught her 3 week old to hold his own bottle so she didn't have to hold him every time he ate....her two kids actually, both by a month old. They would cry and she would change them, stick them down in something, and give their bottle to them....and she was proud of this. It made me very sad to think of all the mommy moments and cuddles her babies missed out on because of that.


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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 8:31:20 PM   
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They even have inventions to make not feeding your baby easier.

Well, I have been all over the board. I was clueless when Brandon came along. His dad helped me become more AP. Nate pushed me pretty far along the AP spectrum. Divorcing and working and going to college and being exhausted interfered with that. And lately I haven't been good at it at all, but then, I don't know what it's supposed to look like in the teen years, so I guess I am clueless once again.

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 10:26:27 PM   
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Interesting.

I've never labelled my parenting style based on what others label them, because I've always felt that my parenting style is my own, as dictated by my daughter (I'm sure my style may change with the next child based on their needs) and as well my parenting style is combined with that of my husband's culture (we worked hard at finding a balance as we were both raised in very different ways.)

That being said, most of what was listed in the original post is along the lines of what we have done. For me though, it was all what came naturally to me in my role as a mother (I don't read parenting books or websites.)

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/3/2008 11:12:05 PM   
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Interesting.

I've never labelled my parenting style based on what others label them, because I've always felt that my parenting style is my own, as dictated by my daughter (I'm sure my style may change with the next child based on their needs) . . . . . .

For me though, it was all what came naturally to me in my role as a mother (I don't read parenting books or websites.)


Same here.

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/4/2008 1:31:02 AM   
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I never would have labeled our parenting style either, but I have found that around where we live most of the mommy groups go one way or the other so it was a sort of necessary evil. I think that most AP goes beyond just what I posted in the OP to include(from what I have seen locally) whole foods eating, delayed vaccinations, lack of "commercial" characters, and many other crunchy things. It was hard for me to associate with other mothers when they didn't share similar beliefs, or when I was always having to explain why we choose what we do.

We do believe in some sort of sleep training, but we definitely don't believe in it at 6 months and surprisingly, neither do people like Ferber who are "experts" in the area of CIO/CC. We actually *gasp* have done sleep training with Gabby, but it did not involve ANY "needy" crying... only anger, lol. And yes, it was definitely anger since we are talking screeching and banging her head on the crib

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RE: Attachment Parenting Support Thread - 10/4/2008 8:10:54 AM   
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We do believe in some sort of sleep training, but we definitely don't believe in it at 6 months and surprisingly, neither do people like Ferber who are "experts" in the area of CIO/CC. We actually *gasp* have done sleep training with Gabby, but it did not involve ANY "needy" crying... only anger,


Us too. But we wait until about 12-14 months and it is a loooooooong process. Being in the same room with him sort of puts a natural limit on how long we let him fuss, even if it is just anger.
We actually have had some really funny moments with sleep training, since Biruk's bed is right next to ours. Especially when he tries the "Look at me, I'm so cute, you just HAVE to pick me up" and gives us a look very much resembling that cat's look in Shrek. It works on Josiah, too.

I do think one of the issues I see some AP moms having is the feeling that they can't ever let their child cry or have "bad" feelings (Thus the whole "consensual living" idea and never saying 'No' in some cases). I have run across some moms who are total martyrs to AP.

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