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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/26/2008 3:20:07 AM
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47.samuel
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There are some estimates that place illegal immigration in America at over 20 million - which is equivalent to the entire population of the State of New York.
Despite the rhetoric, its not realistic to think you can arrest, charge, convict and deport 20 million people and dump them on the Mexico border - without creating far more problems than you would solve.
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/26/2008 8:36:50 AM
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There are some estimates that place illegal immigration in America at over 20 million - which is equivalent to the entire population of the State of New York.
Despite the rhetoric, its not realistic to think you can arrest, charge, convict and deport 20 million people and dump them on the Mexico border - without creating far more problems than you would solve.
Sure we can, back in 1953 there was an operation the name of which will get censored if I put it, but with one tenth the number of immigrations agents that we have now removed or caused to leave over one million illegals.
So yes it is possible, and it should be done.
HERE is a Wikipedia link for information.
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/27/2008 12:26:18 AM
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These people make choices. They choose to come across our border illegally. They often commit crimes that are disgusting to say the least. I lived there for 13 years,and I have had no problems with Sheriff Arpaio's procedures,and policies. He created the pet posse and a number of high school programs in the jail system there. The problem is that we are much harsher on a person who breaks into someones home than we are if someone comes across our border. Some of the illegals if they do not like conditions is to -Not attract attention to yourself,and follow the law. I worked at a restaurant in Phoenix and,my hours were cut because of illegals. Alot of them do not speak a word of english. That can make a difference in a life or death emergency.
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/27/2008 10:56:52 AM
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There are some estimates that place illegal immigration in America at over 20 million - which is equivalent to the entire population of the State of New York.
Despite the rhetoric, its not realistic to think you can arrest, charge, convict and deport 20 million people and dump them on the Mexico border - without creating far more problems than you would solve.
Well, might cause some problems for the Mexican government. But why should we be solving their problems?
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/27/2008 4:42:03 PM
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I'm a fan of a lot of Joe Arpaio's methods. I think all prisons should have non-violent criminals working off their debt to society, with minimal amenities available.
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Despite the rhetoric, its not realistic to think you can arrest, charge, convict and deport 20 million people and dump them on the Mexico border - without creating far more problems than you would solve.
It can be done, but its a lot of work. Most people prefer to do things the easy way, I prefer to do them the right way if at all possible.
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/27/2008 9:37:31 PM
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WAY TO GO, SHERIFF JOE! WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE YOU! 
We need more people feeding prisoners moldy bread and rotten fruit, withholding medical care and toilet paper?
-Dan.
What I MEANT is his aggressive enforcement of the law, not this stuff. I stand behind Sheriff Joe's law enforcement policies and methods for curbing illegal immigration and enforcing other laws. He even had a jail cam that you could access over the internet at one time, but I think it was those stupid ACLU busybodies that convinced the courts that those were a violation of prisoner's rights and had them shut down.
I think that jail prisoners SHOULD have nutritious food, toilet paper and basic mental health and medical care. I also think that they should have access to life controlling habit recovery programs, like Overcomers in Christ or AA. They DON'T need cable TV, girlie mags, weight rooms, or other frills that other jails and prisons have. After all, jails and prisons are places for PUNISHMENT, not country clubs! 
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/28/2008 2:16:48 PM
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Despite Criticism, 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected
Joe Arpaio, who likes to be known as Sheriff Joe, is determined to get rid of every illegal immigrant in Maricopa County, no matter what the cost.
"I'm an equal opportunity law enforcement and incarcerator -- I lock everybody up," he said.
With his ever-present angry growl, the man who has been called "America's Toughest Sheriff" speaks for a good number of frustrated Americans when the issue is illegal immigration. But he has also drawn fire for his aggressive pursuit of illegal immigrants, casting a wide net by raiding local business in search of illegal employees and using traffic violations as excuses to search the vehicles of anyone whom he thinks shouldn't be here.
See rest of story HERE
WAY TO GO, SHERIFF JOE! WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE YOU!
I think he's great and we should have more men like him with backbones.
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/28/2008 2:19:58 PM
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WAY TO GO, SHERIFF JOE! WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE YOU!
We need more people feeding prisoners moldy bread and rotten fruit, withholding medical care and toilet paper?
-Dan.
If you want someone to nurture and care for you, go to your mother's house and don't break the law.
Something is wrong whenever prisoners live in better facilities and are treated better than our brave soldiers protecting this country.
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/28/2008 5:11:43 PM
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We need more people feeding prisoners moldy bread and rotten fruit, withholding medical care and toilet paper?
-Dan.
He makes jail miserable enough that they don't want to come back.
We need to take ALL of our jails back to Cool Hand Luke.
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/29/2008 12:24:54 AM
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WAY TO GO, SHERIFF JOE! WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE YOU!
...for many years, Sheriff Joe's deputies stood by and watch Arizonans hire illegal workers at street corners. It's only in the last year or so has "America's Toughest Sheriff" started to go after illegals.
He's a media hound....and sadly, there are too many people in Maricopa County who fall for his stunts.
To give just one recent example:
The sheriff was tipped that a sub contractor for the city of Mesa had illegal workers on its payroll. The sheriff launched an undercover investigation. Fair enough.
When the time came to arrest the guilty parties ---what did Sheriff Joe do?
At 2:00 AM in the morning, he sent 60 well armed posse members into the Mesa City Hall building to arrest the oh so dangerous cleaning people. Additionally, he did not inform the Mesa Mayor or police. Apparently, Sheriff Joe believes he can conduct operations without informing city police or coordinating with city officials. This is just but one example of America's most ignorant and arrogant sheriff.
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/29/2008 1:17:33 AM
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Rockwall
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WAY TO GO, SHERIFF JOE! WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE YOU!
...for many years, Sheriff Joe's deputies stood by and watch Arizonans hire illegal workers at street corners. It's only in the last year or so has "America's Toughest Sheriff" started to go after illegals.
He's a media hound....and sadly, there are too many people in Maricopa County who fall for his stunts.
To give just one recent example:
The sheriff was tipped that a sub contractor for the city of Mesa had illegal workers on its payroll. The sheriff launched an undercover investigation. Fair enough.
When the time came to arrest the guilty parties ---what did Sheriff Joe do?
At 2:00 AM in the morning, he sent 60 well armed posse members into the Mesa City Hall building to arrest the oh so dangerous cleaning people. Additionally, he did not inform the Mesa Mayor or police. Apparently, Sheriff Joe believes he can conduct operations without informing city police or coordinating with city officials. This is just but one example of America's most ignorant and arrogant sheriff.
Why don't you tell the rest of the story? Such as Arpaio is the sheriff and has jurisdiction across the county so he isn't required to tell them what he is doing. Also Arpaio is the ONLY sheriff the city has asked to give a warning before any raids because illegal immigrants are upset and tensions have risen (please don't upset the illegals). There is also that other fact that the city employee who told him about the illegals also told Mesa officials about it and they did not investigate it.
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If enforcing the laws of this land and finding those who have broken the laws of this land makes you a most ignorant and arrogant sheriff, then America needs more ignorant and arrogant sheriffs.
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/29/2008 10:45:09 AM
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I think that Joe Arpaio is a creep and that those who sing his praises are in the same class.
I live in Arizona, and I actually know of what I speak. Mr. "Toughsheriff" is a bigot and a belicose harrasser of anybody with the wrong color of skin- even if they are U.S. citizens or non-Latinos.
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/29/2008 11:10:54 AM
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I think that Joe Arpaio is a creep and that those who sing his praises are in the same class.
I live in Arizona, and I actually know of what I speak. Mr. "Toughsheriff" is a bigot and a belicose harrasser of anybody with the wrong color of skin- even if they are U.S. citizens or non-Latinos.
If you break the law I don't care what color you are. Why do we cuddle inmates and give them more luxuries than the average working Joe ever gets.
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/29/2008 11:43:19 AM
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Rockwall
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I think that Joe Arpaio is a creep and that those who sing his praises are in the same class.
I live in Arizona, and I actually know of what I speak. Mr. "Toughsheriff" is a bigot and a belicose harrasser of anybody with the wrong color of skin- even if they are U.S. citizens or non-Latinos.
Thanks for calling me a creep, much appreciated.
I live in TX and we have a bigger problem with illegal aliens than you do. Any time someone tries to fight illegal aliens, such as Irving and Farmers Branch, there is an uproar by the Hispanic community. Anybody trying to enforce immigration laws are called racist and disparaged.
From the news reports I have seen over the years, sheriff Arpaio should be commended for not backing down on his stance against CRIMINALS. I wish we had tent cities for our criminals.
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/29/2008 2:00:08 PM
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I think that Joe Arpaio is a creep and that those who sing his praises are in the same class.
I live in Arizona, and I actually know of what I speak. Mr. "Toughsheriff" is a bigot and a belicose harrasser of anybody with the wrong color of skin- even if they are U.S. citizens or non-Latinos.
Just because you disagree with someone's way of doing things doesn't give you cause to engage in the childish habit of calling them, or their supporter's, names.
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/29/2008 2:52:44 PM
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I think that Joe Arpaio is a creep and that those who sing his praises are in the same class.
I live in Arizona, and I actually know of what I speak. Mr. "Toughsheriff" is a bigot and a belicose harrasser of anybody with the wrong color of skin- even if they are U.S. citizens or non-Latinos.
So I can assume that you have a realitive or a friend or two staying at the Arpaio Arms Hotel.
Thanks
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/29/2008 8:10:16 PM
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I think that Joe Arpaio is a creep and that those who sing his praises are in the same class.
I live in Arizona, and I actually know of what I speak. Mr. "Toughsheriff" is a bigot and a belicose harrasser of anybody with the wrong color of skin- even if they are U.S. citizens or non-Latinos.
Joe has my vote (I'm in AZ also...).
He is the only local law enforcement who is willing to actually enforce the immigration laws. It's not really his job but the ones who are supposed to do it have refused to do so. He is kind of a jerk but he actually enforces the law instead of bowing to the alter of political correctness. We need that really badly these days.
I like Mexicans more than I like white people. I find white people tend to be arrogant and lazy. But everyone need to be here legally. Whoever isn't here legally needs to be booted out. Joe is the main one doing that.
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/30/2008 8:31:25 AM
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I like Mexicans more than I like white people.
And just an FYI for you.... most of those people are not Mexican. They are from over a dozen other countries but masquerade themselves to be Mexicans because that way if they are deported they do not have to travel that much to get back here to the states.
It's akin to saying all white people we see are Polish.
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/30/2008 10:09:38 AM
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I think that Joe Arpaio is a creep and that those who sing his praises are in the same class.
I live in Arizona, and I actually know of what I speak. Mr. "Toughsheriff" is a bigot and a belicose harrasser of anybody with the wrong color of skin- even if they are U.S. citizens or non-Latinos.
Thanks for calling me a creep, much appreciated.
I live in TX and we have a bigger problem with illegal aliens than you do. Any time someone tries to fight illegal aliens, such as Irving and Farmers Branch, there is an uproar by the Hispanic community. Anybody trying to enforce immigration laws are called racist and disparaged.
From the news reports I have seen over the years, sheriff Arpaio should be commended for not backing down on his stance against CRIMINALS. I wish we had tent cities for our criminals.
Oh yah, there was a big uproar when a local county in VA tried to get tougher on illegal immigrants, so it's not just in Texas. The Hispanic community took a hissy fit about that. Of course, the local leadership ignored them and proceeded to do their thing, what the voters wanted of them.  I believe the police were so successful in arresting those who were illegal that the ICE agency couldn't handle all the people they were being handed by the local law enforcement.
But I remember their cries of racism and discrimination being thrown every which way. You know, I really really REALLY get tired of that argument being flung around. What is so wrong with trying to crack down on illegals? They are criminals and why should they get a free ride simply for being illegal?
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/30/2008 11:27:03 PM
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If you break the law I don't care what color you are.
But Joe Arpaio doesn't even care if you break the law. All he cares about is what color you are.
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Thanks for calling me a creep, much appreciated.
Actually, I had Sherrif Joe's white supporters here in Arizona in mind. But if the creep fits, then wear it.
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I live in TX and we have a bigger problem with illegal aliens than you do.
. . . But every bit as much of a racial bigotry problem.
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From the news reports I have seen over the years, sheriff Arpaio should be commended for not backing down on his stance against CRIMINALS.
I don't care about the criminals. I am talking about the LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS that Sherrif Arpaio harrasses and detains due to racial profiling. If you are Native American, East Indian, Middle Eastern, Malaysian, or a Latino citizen, then you are automatically suspect. It has nothing whatsoever to do with breaking the law.
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He is kind of a jerk
"Kind of a jerk?" He is belligerent and offensive.
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but he actually enforces the law instead of bowing to the alter of political correctness.
Harrassment based on racial profiling is going too far, my fellow Arizonan
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RE: 'America's Toughest Sheriff' Expects to be Re-elected - 10/31/2008 9:28:00 AM
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If you break the law I don't care what color you are.
But Joe Arpaio doesn't even care if you break the law. All he cares about is what color you are.
The only one bringing up race, creed, color is you. How ironic and telling.
If you break the law you should do the time.
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